Alternative Cooling for video card?

Hi,

I have Radeon 9800 pro with stock cooling... Without changing the cooling on
the card, is there any alternative ways to cool the card, like pci slot fan
or something?

Robert Jackson wrote:
Hi,

I have Radeon 9800 pro with stock cooling... Without changing the cooling on
the card, is there any alternative ways to cool the card, like pci slot fan
or something?


I use a slot fan with my 9700 Pro and it works fine, got rid of the
crashes I had before installing it. Another option would be if you had
a case with a fan on the side or modded your case to include one blowing
on the card.

which slot fan do u use?
"Robert Jackson" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I have Radeon 9800 pro with stock cooling... Without changing the cooling
on
the card, is there any alternative ways to cool the card, like pci slot
fan
or something?

In article ,
(Robert Jackson) wrote:

I have Radeon 9800 pro with stock cooling... Without changing
the cooling on the card, is there any alternative ways to cool
the card, like pci slot fan or something?

The simplest thing to do is buy one of those Zalman fans that comes with a
bracket (or rig something similar up yourself). It's designed to point
down into the case (over CPUs or whatever hotspot you have) but if you
bend the bracket you can point the fan at the GPU side of the vid card, so
it's assisting the onboard fan. Worked very nicely for me. In fact I still
use this method on an x800 with twin heatpipe Zalman cooler. I have the
Zalman fan on that *and* the bracket fan helping to keep things calm
during the summer. It's not too quiet, but it's pretty effective.

Obviously if you have occupied PCI slots near the AGP slot life might be
more complicated, but these days the only card in my main machine is the
vid card.

Andrew McP

I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent right
in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns

In article , "johns" wrote:
I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent right
in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns


While on paper to you it might sound good but htenumber one killer will change
from being the heat to being the moisture from condensation you will bring in
from that air conditioning duct. everything will corrode.

GMAN wrote:

In article , "johns"
wrote:
I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent
right in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns


While on paper to you it might sound good but htenumber one killer will
change from being the heat to being the moisture from condensation you
will bring in from that air conditioning duct. everything will corrode.

What "moisture from condensation"? You get condensation from warm, moist air
hitting cold surfaces. If you're using an air conditioner duct to cool the
computer you have cool, fairly dry air hitting warm surfaces and no
condensation. Further, most air conditioners remove moisture from the
air--the air coming out of that duct will typically be drier than the room
air.

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 19:58:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

GMAN wrote:

In article , "johns"
wrote:
I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent
right in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns


While on paper to you it might sound good but htenumber one killer will
change from being the heat to being the moisture from condensation you
will bring in from that air conditioning duct. everything will corrode.

What "moisture from condensation"? You get condensation from warm, moist air
hitting cold surfaces. If you're using an air conditioner duct to cool the
computer you have cool, fairly dry air hitting warm surfaces and no
condensation. Further, most air conditioners remove moisture from the
air--the air coming out of that duct will typically be drier than the room
air.


Depends if the air conditioner _does_ remove moisture. If it doesn't,
the air is likely to be saturated.

patrickp

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patrickp wrote:

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 19:58:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

GMAN wrote:

In article , "johns"
wrote:
I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent
right in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns


While on paper to you it might sound good but htenumber one killer will
change from being the heat to being the moisture from condensation you
will bring in from that air conditioning duct. everything will corrode.

What "moisture from condensation"? You get condensation from warm, moist
air
hitting cold surfaces. If you're using an air conditioner duct to cool
the computer you have cool, fairly dry air hitting warm surfaces and no
condensation. Further, most air conditioners remove moisture from the
air--the air coming out of that duct will typically be drier than the room
air.


Depends if the air conditioner _does_ remove moisture. If it doesn't,
the air is likely to be saturated.

If the air conditioner is actually cooling the air it is removing
moisture--that occurs due to the physics of cooling--cold air can hold less
moisture than warm air. The air conditioner doesn't have to do anything
"special" to remove moisture. Getting rid of the moisture that condenses
on the evaporator is one of the issues that air conditioner designers and
installers have to deal with--central air conditioning systems typically
have drain pipes or hoses, while window units are typically mounted at a
slight angle so that they drip outside instead of inside.

Perhaps you are confusing an "air conditioner" with an "evaporative cooler",
aka "swamp cooler". They tend not to be used with ducting and generally do
not produce "very, very cold air" so it is reasonable to assume that he is
not using a swamp cooler.



patrickp

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--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 11:06:38 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

patrickp wrote:

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 19:58:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

GMAN wrote:

In article , "johns"
wrote:
I have the best system cooling ever invented. It works
perfectly, and it is free .. sort of. There's an air conditioning vent
right in front of my computer. It blows
directly on the box, and when I place my hand on the
case, it is cold. I've been thinking of how to use this
in the winter as well. I could install a duct, and bring
in outside air with a small fan, and put some kind of
air guide over to the box. ?? Seems like a good idea
to adapt home air conditioning, or a winter air vent to
cool a computer. That air is very very cold, and much
more effective than just a fan in the case.

johns


While on paper to you it might sound good but htenumber one killer will
change from being the heat to being the moisture from condensation you
will bring in from that air conditioning duct. everything will corrode.

What "moisture from condensation"? You get condensation from warm, moist
air
hitting cold surfaces. If you're using an air conditioner duct to cool
the computer you have cool, fairly dry air hitting warm surfaces and no
condensation. Further, most air conditioners remove moisture from the
air--the air coming out of that duct will typically be drier than the room
air.


Depends if the air conditioner _does_ remove moisture. If it doesn't,
the air is likely to be saturated.

If the air conditioner is actually cooling the air it is removing
moisture--that occurs due to the physics of cooling--cold air can hold less
moisture than warm air. The air conditioner doesn't have to do anything
"special" to remove moisture. Getting rid of the moisture that condenses
on the evaporator is one of the issues that air conditioner designers and
installers have to deal with--central air conditioning systems typically
have drain pipes or hoses, while window units are typically mounted at a
slight angle so that they drip outside instead of inside.

Perhaps you are confusing an "air conditioner" with an "evaporative cooler",
aka "swamp cooler". They tend not to be used with ducting and generally do
not produce "very, very cold air" so it is reasonable to assume that he is
not using a swamp cooler.



patrickp

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No, John, the fact that cool air can hold less moisture than warm air
means that cooling it is more likely to raise it to saturation point -
that's why air conditioner manufacturers and installers _have_
condensation problems.

The primary condition that determines whether moisture condenses from
air is not how much moisture it contains, but how saturated it is.

If an air conditioning system actively removes moisture from the air
by other means than condensation, then the resultant cool air may have
very low moisture content and not be saturated. In systems which
don't remove moisture by any other process than passive condensation,
if the the condensation process produces any moisture at all, that in
itself is an indication that the resultant cool air is now fully
saturated.

Normally, this would not matter, since the outflowing cooled air will
be mixed with warmer air in the local environment. However, something
placed close to the cool air outlet, before mixing can take place,
_is_ likely to attract condensation.

patrickp

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