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P4C800E Dlx and Antec usb ports
I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has
two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip |
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I used the same motherboard and, after researching the pinouts, plugged them
into the front USB ports of my CoolerMaster case and they both work great--I used separate cables that each had 4 conductors to connect to the USB mobo headers. The USB headers on the P4C800E-D mobo appear to be standard except that the included separate OEM cables do not have the 5th pin--the black S-Ground, but then, neither did the USB ports on the front of my case. You can find a pile of useful information about the USB pinouts at: www.frontx.com/cpx101_2.html Good luck, MikeSp "Silvertip" wrote in message k.net... I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip |
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In article t,
"Silvertip" wrote: I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip This posting talks about the Sonata, a close cousin of the SLK3700. The poster found two wires reversed in the Antec wiring on the Sonata case. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...s-srv1.fmr.com I've traced wiring errors on an Antec 635 case, where the two pairs of Firewire data wires had their (+) and (-) wires in each pair reversed. My advice is, if you are going to use the front ports on an Antec case, you should use an ohmmeter to verify which wire is which. I lash sewing needles to the tips of my ohmmeter probes. I stuff one needle into the female pins inside the case, and then use the other needle to probe the USB connector. That way, I can confirm the wiring. (Actually, I'm sufficiently sick of Antec's inability to do front panels, that when I bought a Sonata, I immediately ripped the front panel assembly and the three cables that hang from it, out of the case. So, I didn't get to experience the joy of finding yet another wiring error. The posting above shows I wouldn't have been disappointed if I had left it in and tested it with an ohmmeter :-( I left the blue LEDs in the case, as they make a dandy flashlight.) I believe Antec is also the manufacturer that puts USB 1.1 compatible front panel assemblies in their cases - on purpose. If you contact them and complain, they'll send you a USB 2.0 compliant front panel. I even found a web page on the Antec site, where they actually had the nerve to list the case models that got a USB 1.1 panel by default, which means it is not a design error, it is some kind of penny pinching move. This too, is one of the contributing factors to my need to just rip their assembly out of the case, because I don't even want to look at it. My approach is just a little bit extreme, but at least you should use an ohmmeter to verify the labelling and position of the connections. If you plug in a USB 2.0 device and it won't run at USB 2.0 rates, then it is possible it is a limitation of the assembly, as stated above. And it doesn't matter who made the case - case manufacturers as a lot, no nothing about electronics. They know how to cut, hammer, and bend sheet metal, but seem capable of getting the wiring right. That is why all cases should get the ohmmeter treatment. HTH, Paul |
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Thanks for all the answers. However, being severely electronics challenged
(don't know crap), I guess all I can do is try to plug them in and hope for the best. Silvertip "Paul" wrote in message ... In article t, "Silvertip" wrote: I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip This posting talks about the Sonata, a close cousin of the SLK3700. The poster found two wires reversed in the Antec wiring on the Sonata case. http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...s-srv1.fmr.com I've traced wiring errors on an Antec 635 case, where the two pairs of Firewire data wires had their (+) and (-) wires in each pair reversed. My advice is, if you are going to use the front ports on an Antec case, you should use an ohmmeter to verify which wire is which. I lash sewing needles to the tips of my ohmmeter probes. I stuff one needle into the female pins inside the case, and then use the other needle to probe the USB connector. That way, I can confirm the wiring. (Actually, I'm sufficiently sick of Antec's inability to do front panels, that when I bought a Sonata, I immediately ripped the front panel assembly and the three cables that hang from it, out of the case. So, I didn't get to experience the joy of finding yet another wiring error. The posting above shows I wouldn't have been disappointed if I had left it in and tested it with an ohmmeter :-( I left the blue LEDs in the case, as they make a dandy flashlight.) I believe Antec is also the manufacturer that puts USB 1.1 compatible front panel assemblies in their cases - on purpose. If you contact them and complain, they'll send you a USB 2.0 compliant front panel. I even found a web page on the Antec site, where they actually had the nerve to list the case models that got a USB 1.1 panel by default, which means it is not a design error, it is some kind of penny pinching move. This too, is one of the contributing factors to my need to just rip their assembly out of the case, because I don't even want to look at it. My approach is just a little bit extreme, but at least you should use an ohmmeter to verify the labelling and position of the connections. If you plug in a USB 2.0 device and it won't run at USB 2.0 rates, then it is possible it is a limitation of the assembly, as stated above. And it doesn't matter who made the case - case manufacturers as a lot, no nothing about electronics. They know how to cut, hammer, and bend sheet metal, but seem capable of getting the wiring right. That is why all cases should get the ohmmeter treatment. HTH, Paul |
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Well, decided to use the Antec as a HTPC with my P4PE (with all the goodies)
instead of theP4C800. Will use that one as my main net/gaming/etc. machine in a w/c case that I have. Do the answers to my question regarding the P4C800 mobo also apply to the P4PE? TIA Silvertip "Silvertip" wrote in message k.net... I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip |
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In article . net,
"Silvertip" wrote: Well, decided to use the Antec as a HTPC with my P4PE (with all the goodies) instead of theP4C800. Will use that one as my main net/gaming/etc. machine in a w/c case that I have. Do the answers to my question regarding the P4C800 mobo also apply to the P4PE? TIA Silvertip "Silvertip" wrote in message k.net... I have the above mobo and also have a Antec SLK3700AMB case. The case has two front mounted usb ports. Has anybody been able to hook these up with no problems? I have read in several places that the ASUS connectors, in a lot of cases, aren't compatible with the way the connectors are wired. If anyone has this combo please let me know if you were able to connect the front ports easily. Silvertip I guess what you do, depends on how expensive and important your USB devices are to you. For example, I have a USB mouse I got at a tech show - it is a miniature 2 button mouse, and I don't really care if it gets fried or not. If you own a USB device you don't care about, you could wire up the front port and test with that device. Otherwise, use the I/O ports on the back of the machine, as they are safe. If you hook up the front, and it doesn't work properly, it could be that swapping some (+) or (-) data wires will fix it. But if the power wires (the +5V and GND) are miswired, then a device you plug into the front port could get fried. If you won't use an ohmmeter, the best I can suggest, is to look up the model number of your computer case in Google, and see if anyone else has encountered problems with the wiring. I'm sure there are many cases where the wiring is just fine - it is just my experience with Antec makes me nervous. HTH, Paul |
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Hi Paul,
You mentioned a web page on Antec site that list the case models with the wrong USB front panel, can I have the URL to that page, please? Thanks. Snowball snip I believe Antec is also the manufacturer that puts USB 1.1 compatible front panel assemblies in their cases - on purpose. If you contact them and complain, they'll send you a USB 2.0 compliant front panel. I even found a web page on the Antec site, where they actually had the nerve to list the case models that got a USB 1.1 panel by default, which means it is not a design error, it is some kind of penny pinching move. This too, is one of the contributing factors to my need to just rip their assembly out of the case, because I don't even want to look at it. snip |
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In article , Snowman
wrote: Hi Paul, You mentioned a web page on Antec site that list the case models with the wrong USB front panel, can I have the URL to that page, please? Thanks. Snowball I've been searching and searching and cannot find the list. I didn't bookmark it. And, I don't appear to have any files on disk with "Antec" in the name, so I don't know what happened to the info. While using search engines this afternoon, I've seen a number of reports of people contacting Antec and getting replacement ports. http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42494 This attachment from the same thread, show a couple of sample assemblies. The second one in the picture "Zhong", only differs in that it has L-C low pass filters on the USB data signals, and that is there to help with FCC compliance. There are two caps on the left, and they are there to smooth the USB +5V voltage fed to the connected device. I don't see how either of those changes would help a USB2 device work that much better. http://www.abxzone.com/forums/attach...achmentid=5198 Sorry I cannot find the list. I think when I ran into the list, I was working on some other project and didn't take the time to save it. All I remember is my jaw dropping, to see so many of the cases listed as being USB 1.1. Paul snip I believe Antec is also the manufacturer that puts USB 1.1 compatible front panel assemblies in their cases - on purpose. If you contact them and complain, they'll send you a USB 2.0 compliant front panel. I even found a web page on the Antec site, where they actually had the nerve to list the case models that got a USB 1.1 panel by default, which means it is not a design error, it is some kind of penny pinching move. This too, is one of the contributing factors to my need to just rip their assembly out of the case, because I don't even want to look at it. snip |
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