If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
ATI newbie (coming from NVidia) question !
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:09:16 +0200, Cole Turner
wrote: ok, obviously first I uninstall the nvidia drivers, then shut down PC, install ati card, then ... ... install the omega drivers? (Sapphire x800 Pro) I prefer stability to a few % performance ! thanks guys! Cole *** yes.. uninstall the nvidia drivers, but before you shut down, you should run this program, http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/ then reboot. Personally, I then switch the video drivers to basic standard vga in windows. THEN .. reboot one more time, and then double click omegas .exe file. Pluvious |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard
Catalysts. -- "War is the continuation of politics by other means. It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed." "Cole Turner" wrote in message ... ok, obviously first I uninstall the nvidia drivers, then shut down PC, install ati card, then ... ... install the omega drivers? (Sapphire x800 Pro) I prefer stability to a few % performance ! thanks guys! Cole *** -- Johnny: [plugging back in the runway lights] "Just kidding." ('Airplane!', 1980) |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
standard add/remove has always worked fine for me.
the omega and official 4.4s are both good drivers - the omega's felt a little smoother. Im currently using the 4.8 betas from www.guru3d and theyre very good and work glitch free with Thief 3, Far Cry, Ground Control 2, UT2004 ... "Cole Turner" wrote in message ... ok, obviously first I uninstall the nvidia drivers, then shut down PC, install ati card, then ... ... install the omega drivers? (Sapphire x800 Pro) I prefer stability to a few % performance ! thanks guys! Cole *** -- Johnny: [plugging back in the runway lights] "Just kidding." ('Airplane!', 1980) |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One"
wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
"Pluvious" wrote in message
... On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One" wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious Ever hear of the expression "If it aint brock, don't fix it!"?? Not all Omega users have had zero problems. Omegas aren't made from scratch, they are simply hacked together drivers made of a mix and mash of newer and older files. Do a google search for "omega drivers" and see what I mean. Once you install them you may or may not have a hard time getting rid of them if they cause problems. My suggestion is to do either a complete back,up before trying them or at least do a system restore point backup before you install them. Any problems with them may not be apparent at first. They may show up at a later time with a newer game. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:05:18 GMT, Pluvious
wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:09:16 +0200, Cole Turner wrote: ok, obviously first I uninstall the nvidia drivers, then shut down PC, install ati card, then ... ... install the omega drivers? (Sapphire x800 Pro) I prefer stability to a few % performance ! thanks guys! Cole *** yes.. uninstall the nvidia drivers, but before you shut down, you should run this program, http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/ then reboot. Personally, I then switch the video drivers to basic standard vga in windows. THEN .. reboot one more time, and then double click omegas .exe file. Pluvious A couple of quibbles, Cole - Pluvious' is generally a good recommendation, although I would be inclined to run Driver Cleaner after uninstalling and rebooting, although it's less convenient (you'll be on the VGA drivers and not have such a good display). If you have an NVidia chipset, you may have trouble distinguishing between chipset and card drivers: probably a good idea to install the chipset drivers too, clean everything, then reinstall the chipset drivers. I'd also recommend starting off with the latest Catalyst drivers (4.7, soon to be 4.8 - apparently with OGL finally fixed!) rather than Omega, to start with, as several people later in this thread have also suggested. You can always change to the Omega drivers if you want to try them; probably best to go with the standard ones to start off. The basic purpose of Omega's drivers is game (_not_ benchmark) performance; despite what some people here say, they are not inherently more stable than Catalyst drivers. I have tried them on more than one occasion and, and as a non-latest-and-greatest games player, have found no advantages - and as many problems, probably, as I've had with Catalysts i.e. very few, but not none. And don't forget to install DX9 if you don't have it - DX 9.0c has just come out: I'm running it now on W2K and 98SE boxes: no problems, stable. patrickp - take five to email me |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 03:07:02 GMT, "Gonzo"
wrote: "Pluvious" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One" wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious Ever hear of the expression "If it aint brock, don't fix it!"?? Not all Omega users have had zero problems. Omegas aren't made from scratch, they are simply hacked together drivers made of a mix and mash of newer and older files. Do a google search for "omega drivers" and see what I mean. Once you install them you may or may not have a hard time getting rid of them if they cause problems. My suggestion is to do either a complete back,up before trying them or at least do a system restore point backup before you install them. Any problems with them may not be apparent at first. They may show up at a later time with a newer game. You are completely mistaken. Any "problems" are from people not following instuctions or having a badly tuned rig. Might I suggest you read up on his site http://www.omegadrivers.net/ and note this paragraph: }The Omega Drivers have been recognized by ATI as the best moddeed drivers in the internet! Here is a quote from Terry Makedon when he was interviewed by a German Magazine: "ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI’s user community at its best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI’s CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers." { Pluvious |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 23:48:00 GMT, Pluvious
wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One" wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious No, they're better for you, Pluvious, and also for many gamers - that's what Omegadriver is basically optimising his drivers for. If someone is not a latest-and-greatest gamer - I'm not, and you have no reason for believing the OP is - there's no real advantage. I've tried them on more than one occasion, sometimes keeping them on my system for a while, but found no improvement over the standard Catalyst drivers. I would agree if you were to say they're probably better for gamers, and I wouldn't deny Omegadriver makes a good product. However, someone starting off using an Ati card is probably better off using the standard Catalyst drivers and then trying Omega's ones if and when ready. patrickp - take five to email me |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
"Pluvious" wrote in message
... On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 03:07:02 GMT, "Gonzo" wrote: "Pluvious" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One" wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious Ever hear of the expression "If it aint brock, don't fix it!"?? Not all Omega users have had zero problems. Omegas aren't made from scratch, they are simply hacked together drivers made of a mix and mash of newer and older files. Do a google search for "omega drivers" and see what I mean. Once you install them you may or may not have a hard time getting rid of them if they cause problems. My suggestion is to do either a complete back,up before trying them or at least do a system restore point backup before you install them. Any problems with them may not be apparent at first. They may show up at a later time with a newer game. You are completely mistaken. Any "problems" are from people not following instuctions or having a badly tuned rig. Might I suggest you read up on his site http://www.omegadrivers.net/ and note this paragraph: }The Omega Drivers have been recognized by ATI as the best moddeed drivers in the internet! Here is a quote from Terry Makedon when he was interviewed by a German Magazine: "ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI's user community at its best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI's CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers." { Do a search for "uninstalling omega drivers" and see what you find. I personally do not use them so could care less but I am interested in what your or Omega's defenition of "modded" means exactly. Since you seem to be knowledgable in this area, could you elaborate? I still say, if it's not broke then why risk breaking it with the Omegas? If you are having problems then by all means, knock yourself out but do a backup first. Just my advice. Im glad that there are people here who are excited about the Omega drivers but surely you do not have a problem with people voicing an opposing view or opinion right? |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 20:44:20 GMT, "Gonzo"
wrote: "Pluvious" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 03:07:02 GMT, "Gonzo" wrote: "Pluvious" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:43:35 GMT, "First of One" wrote: Don't use the Omega drivers unless you have a problem with the standard Catalysts. Why would you say this? The Omega drivers are better then the official ones IMHO. Pluvious Ever hear of the expression "If it aint brock, don't fix it!"?? Not all Omega users have had zero problems. Omegas aren't made from scratch, they are simply hacked together drivers made of a mix and mash of newer and older files. Do a google search for "omega drivers" and see what I mean. Once you install them you may or may not have a hard time getting rid of them if they cause problems. My suggestion is to do either a complete back,up before trying them or at least do a system restore point backup before you install them. Any problems with them may not be apparent at first. They may show up at a later time with a newer game. You are completely mistaken. Any "problems" are from people not following instuctions or having a badly tuned rig. Might I suggest you read up on his site http://www.omegadrivers.net/ and note this paragraph: }The Omega Drivers have been recognized by ATI as the best moddeed drivers in the internet! Here is a quote from Terry Makedon when he was interviewed by a German Magazine: "ATI supports the enthusiast community wholly. Omega Drivers are in fact a good example of ATI's user community at its best. What they are in principle are CATALYST drivers with different settings enabled via registry keys and other such methods. This provides users an alternative to ATI's CATALYST default settings. While there are a few different modification drivers out in the community our relationship with the creator of the Omega Drivers is of the highest working standard. The author of these drivers is part of the CATALYST beta driver testing team, and also in direct contact with ATI. In fact we would go so far as to say that if a user chooses to go the mod driver route, they go with the Omega Drivers." { Do a search for "uninstalling omega drivers" and see what you find. I personally do not use them so could care less but I am interested in what your or Omega's defenition of "modded" means exactly. Since you seem to be knowledgable in this area, could you elaborate? I still say, if it's not broke then why risk breaking it with the Omegas? If you are having problems then by all means, knock yourself out but do a backup first. Just my advice. Im glad that there are people here who are excited about the Omega drivers but surely you do not have a problem with people voicing an opposing view or opinion right? I have no problem with people voicing an opposing view at all. I just wonder how someone who doesn't use them can proclaim them to be dangerous or 'unsafe'. Pluvious |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
RAID 1 newbie question - non identical disks | Matt Fletcher | Homebuilt PC's | 8 | August 10th 04 09:42 PM |
Quick IDE cable question (newbie) | Gabagimpy | Homebuilt PC's | 7 | December 23rd 03 02:07 PM |
newbie - question about heat generated by computer | kony | General | 0 | August 31st 03 01:17 AM |
Newbie: FSB speed question | Joseph | General | 3 | August 28th 03 11:51 PM |
Motherboard FSB - Newbie Question | mac | General | 1 | August 2nd 03 03:16 AM |