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Old September 16th 03, 01:16 AM
ho alexandre
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JC wrote:
For those interested, 3dchipset has leaded the 51.75 driver.


I don't understand, nV talks about 50.x drivers not used by Valve, and
all of a sudden we get a 51.x driver ?

Is coding branches really required when there's such an important issue ?

What about nView, shouldn't nVidia focus on a more burning issue like D3D9 ?


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Old September 16th 03, 02:15 AM
Richard Dower
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"ho alexandre" wrote in message
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JC wrote:
For those interested, 3dchipset has leaded the 51.75 driver.


I don't understand, nV talks about 50.x drivers not used by Valve, and
all of a sudden we get a 51.x driver ?

Is coding branches really required when there's such an important issue ?

What about nView, shouldn't nVidia focus on a more burning issue like D3D9

?

Reports suggest the frame rate increase in this driver release is due to
some detail levels being removed or reduced. To improve frame rates one
would assume.

At this point it is hard for consumers to really trust Nvidia and their PR
and spin, once you go down the road of "tweaking" and "optimising" you fall
foul of such accusations and as a result lose customer base.



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Old September 16th 03, 05:25 AM
John Lewis
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:16:20 +0200, ho alexandre
wrote:

JC wrote:
For those interested, 3dchipset has leaded the 51.75 driver.


I don't understand, nV talks about 50.x drivers not used by Valve, and
all of a sudden we get a 51.x driver ?


No, somebody stole a test-beta driver. Anybody who judges the
performance of nVidia's next official driver release on the basis of a
stolen beta-test driver would be a bad candidate for any detective
agency.

Is coding branches really required when there's such an important issue ?

What about nView, shouldn't nVidia focus on a more burning issue like D3D9 ?


nVidia may well be, with a lot less song and dance than those on the
video newsgroups foaming at the mouth, and who are a miniscule part
of the video-card buying public. See how often the same names turn
up again and again in the newsgroup discussions, besides the usual
complement of trolls.

It is in Valve's $$-interest to ensure that HL2 runs well on the
"median" video card out there (say Ti4200 and equivalent Ati ). The
public expectation will be that the game runs on their computer with
the same frame-rate at the same resolution as they currently play HL1
or CS, but they may have to manually turn-off some of the ( "DX9,
DX8.1") graphics-enhancements. If such latter user-tweaks are
not in the game and it "slugs" with poor frame-rate at the same
resolution as HL1, then HL2 will bomb after the initial spurt of
sales, or Valve will have to rush "graphics-adjustment" patches
really fast.

I doubt if many of the buying public are going to splurge $200
or more just to see water glistening or pretty walls............when
all they want to do is frag the next alien and require the smooth
frame-rate to do it........

Some purchasers may well need to upgrade their CPU to handle
the HL2 AI, which will be far more important to game-play
(for the single-player game ) than any prettying-up of the
graphics. A new graphics card is going to be way down
on the purchase list of the "joe-blow" HL2 player.

John Lewis



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Old September 16th 03, 01:23 PM
Paul Hansford
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it happens every so often when nvidia release a driver, think the 44.10's or
whatever they were did it too. Using 43.45 now without any problems.

XP2200+
512MB Samsung DDR Ram
L7VTA mobo
300 PSU
soundblaster live

All latest updates for mobo, sound etc.. XP SP1 with all patches and updates

It's something to do with the display settings advanced tab i think that
causes it, when i clicked on settings on the display options after upgrading
the driver i got BSOD. So removed all old drivers and crap and reinstalled
again, when I rebooted it doesn't get to windows just the BSOD with
nv4_disp.dll error

Nevermind, back to 43.45 for the time being

Paul

"JC" wrote in message
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For those interested, 3dchipset has leaded the 51.75 driver.
there is a lot of "noise" about and some might want to see for themselves.

http://www.techconnect.ws/download.p...echconnect.zip

JC




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Old September 16th 03, 01:25 PM
Paul Hansford
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but being honest can anyone actually tell the difference in quality in a
game? It's easy to look at screenshots and say yeah that one looks better
but when things are fast moving and your busy shooting things is it that
noticeable? I doubt it, I'd rather have plenty more speed than a sligh
degrade in quality that u can't see.


"John Lewis" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 02:16:20 +0200, ho alexandre
wrote:

JC wrote:
For those interested, 3dchipset has leaded the 51.75 driver.


I don't understand, nV talks about 50.x drivers not used by Valve, and
all of a sudden we get a 51.x driver ?


No, somebody stole a test-beta driver. Anybody who judges the
performance of nVidia's next official driver release on the basis of a
stolen beta-test driver would be a bad candidate for any detective
agency.

Is coding branches really required when there's such an important issue ?

What about nView, shouldn't nVidia focus on a more burning issue like

D3D9 ?


nVidia may well be, with a lot less song and dance than those on the
video newsgroups foaming at the mouth, and who are a miniscule part
of the video-card buying public. See how often the same names turn
up again and again in the newsgroup discussions, besides the usual
complement of trolls.

It is in Valve's $$-interest to ensure that HL2 runs well on the
"median" video card out there (say Ti4200 and equivalent Ati ). The
public expectation will be that the game runs on their computer with
the same frame-rate at the same resolution as they currently play HL1
or CS, but they may have to manually turn-off some of the ( "DX9,
DX8.1") graphics-enhancements. If such latter user-tweaks are
not in the game and it "slugs" with poor frame-rate at the same
resolution as HL1, then HL2 will bomb after the initial spurt of
sales, or Valve will have to rush "graphics-adjustment" patches
really fast.

I doubt if many of the buying public are going to splurge $200
or more just to see water glistening or pretty walls............when
all they want to do is frag the next alien and require the smooth
frame-rate to do it........

Some purchasers may well need to upgrade their CPU to handle
the HL2 AI, which will be far more important to game-play
(for the single-player game ) than any prettying-up of the
graphics. A new graphics card is going to be way down
on the purchase list of the "joe-blow" HL2 player.

John Lewis



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XandreX
/I'm that kind of people your parents warned you about/




 




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