8500LEs are merely clocked-down 8500s. They are often capable of running at
the same speeds - although there are many (like the one I bought) that use
4ns memory chips and they usually can't be clocked up to the same level.
These are commonly known as "8500LELE"s - although you usually won't see
them advertised as such.



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om...
I got this itch to upgrade my video card so... here's the sordid
details. My machine is a Dell 4400 2.0Ghz P4, 1Gb PC2100 Ram running
WinXP Pro. This machine was originally equipped with a GeForce3
Ti200/64Mb. Things ran ok until I encountered Battlefield 1942. Since
I'm a cheap SOB when it came time for me to replace I looked around
and purchased a 128Mb Geforce FX5200 non-ultra card. Worked fine, was
marginally faster than the GF3 it replaced but still liked to go into
stop-action mode when all the eye-candy was turned on so I decided to
take one last stab at the cheap route. I looked around and purchased a
Sapphire 8500 LE 128Mb card. This is the cheaper variety with 5ns TSOP
memory. Original clock speed was 250Mhz core and 200/400Mhz memory. I
upped it to 275Mhz core and 250/500Mhz memory and it works fine. It is
faster and has a better, sharper display. Now, questions are....

My understanding is the 8500 LE (RV200?) has 4 pixel pipelines and 2
TMUs like the original 8500 but at a slower speed - is that right or
??

Is there anything out there in the $150 or less range that would
provide a major performance increase over this card or would it make
sense just to sit tight with the LE and wait for the 9700/9800 to be
superceded so they drop in price?