you just have to know how to turn the screws on them... same as anyone else.

Cheers,

LC

"Sharmon @user.com" Georgenospam wrote in message
...
I am very proud of you , you know of a good Dell installation and so
do I . I also know of a lot of bad Dell installs as well . A good
company stands behind their equipment when it goes bad , something I
don't see from Dell.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 19:56:54 -0600, "NuT CrAcKeR"
wrote:

its good to see that platform bigotry is alive an well.

Use whatever you have to that gets the job done. Its like I said, I
prefer
the Hpaq systems, its my customers that insist on buying the dell servers
because of thier price. Yes, thier support blows, but like most competent
engineers, I only call them as a last resort. I dont have the time to
school
them to the ways of how servers are supposed to operate.

And, just so you know, I work for a fortune 100 company and we have about
600 dell servers. We also have about 1250 Compaq/HP servers, and about
400
IBM servers. Have you ever heard of a Silo? We have 2, and about a dozen
other StorageTek mutlti-terabyte libraries.

We average about 4.3 9's of uptime a quarter throughout our entire
enterprise.

So before you run your ignorant mouth making statements like "...none of
their
customers will put a mission critical app on their crappy equipment
anyways..." perhpas you would like me to teach you the definition of
mission
critical.

As Mark Twain once said, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a
fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". It reminds me of
you.

Ciao,

LC

"Sharmon @user.com" Georgenospam wrote in message
.. .
The price is a little high $1800-2000 would be about right as HP is
now enforcing the non-transferable clause in their warranty so make
sure the unit has no history or registered owner BEFORE buying and if
it does pay accordingly. As far as the poor guy who bought the Dell ,
well the DL380 has a duty cycle you can run a data center on , you
Dell is nothing more than a bloated desktop. Try this, tell Dell
support (when you finally get through) that your drive is showing up
as failed in the NOS and on the drive itself on your RAID 5
configuration on your 911 SQL server . First of all the dick will tell
you to try reseating the failed drive running a very good chace of
destroying your data and secondly the "tech" will not even remind you
to back you data up. HP will just ship you a drive (unless you have
multiple failures) . You know why ??? Because Dell does not make real
servers and the people who trained the techs know that none of their
customers will put a mission critical app on their crappy equipment
anyways

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 08:36:50 GMT, "Hank Arnold"
wrote:

ROTFL!!!!

You're comparing a low end POS desktop against a rack mounted server
with
10K RPM SCSI drives, RAID, etc.....

I didn't see a smiley face, but you are joking, right?????????????????