Thread: On the brink of madness...
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Old January 30th 05, 06:25 PM
I.C. Koets
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"Trent©" wrote:

Check to see what drive letters they've been given. Change the NEC to
W.

Done. But why?

Because Windows will (most times) change drive letters on you if you
add or subtract a device. With what you now wrote...in your
particular case...this doesn't seem to be any particular problem for
you. But if you add a camera...or jump drive...etc., drive letters
will probably change...and can really muddle things up. Putting
non-IDE devices at the end of the alphabet gives Window room to add or
subtract letters...which it always does at the frontside.

OK. Not a bad idea then.


I installed W98se on it. All components' manufacturers claim their component
is supported in W98se, and I have looked up all appropriate drivers.

So you installed NEW drivers for everything? Is there anything that
didn't work from the git go?

I first tried to see if Windows came up with working PnP drivers. It didn't.
Then I installed the drivers from the disks I got with the components.

From my past experience, you shouldn't need to do that. When you put
in the CD, it should give you a menu...and allow you to install
drivers for the chipset, sound, LAN, etc. If you didn't get that, I'd
say that 98 probably won't run on that board.

It does give me a menu, then starts Installshield, then gives me the
message that the chipset/video card/TV card is not found on my PC and
aborts.

That
gave me no results, as I described in the initial post. Then I downloaded
the latest W98se drivers (getting scarce!) with no extra luck.

Did you try puttin' them on a floppy...delete the hardware...then
reboot? When Windows tries to install that new device, point it to
the floppy's drivers.

Not a floppy, but a harddisk directory. If I then force Windows to use 'my'
drivers, it warns me that they are *not* written for my hardware in the case
of the video card, or it just says I should press 'Finish' and does not
install the driver in case of the chipset.

If it ain't broke...don't fix it. Its not absolutely to install the
latest drivers if things are running properly. What not running
properly?

Videocard is not detected and only displays VGA,

What model card? Can 98 support that version of AGP? Got any old 1
or 2 cards sittin' around that you can try?

It's my only card. It isn't AGP, but PCI Express. It has W98 drivers, so
logically I'd expect it to work. The card is an Nvidia GeForce 6200 (Club3D)

no sound (onboard sound drivers are part of the chipset drivers)

I didn't read the mainboard site in depth. But I kinda remember
reading that that onboard sound isn't supported in 98. Where did you
get the drivers? Are there 98 drivers on that CD? If not, its
probably not supported.

Well, yes and no. It doesn't give you many drivers, but it does have
instructions squirreled away on how to install the 98 .inf files.

network somehow only runs if I use the DOS drivers

That's a chipset install feature again. Sounds like 98 doesn't
support most of that board.

Yes, but I think it's weird, because the BIOS has W98 compatibility
settings, and the box claims W98 compatibility.

TV card not detected, drivers also won't install

Startin' to see the pattern? lol

Yes, unfortunately.


Rather annoying, all in all.

Yeah...been there, done that!

Me too, but normally I find it easier to fix.
I don't like to be forced onto another OS, because I can tweak 98se to do
what I want it to. I've never had any luck tweaking XP and I am completely
lost when it comes to *nix.

Are you sure of what you have on the board?...what brand it REALLY is,
etc. Run AIDA32...so that you have the current specs on all the
hardware. Do a report and save it.

Done! (Nice program, by the way.) It doesn't give me a lot of extra
information. It identifies my video card as Generic VGA, for instance. Not
highly inspiring. The report is 182 KB, so I won't post it right now.

Print out the text and post it within your message if you want. Just
don't include it as an attachment...or somebody'll jump all over your
ass! lol

Well, here you go: It's at the end of my post.

Again, a highly similar problem when installing my videocard. I run the
setup program, and it runs until it aborts with an error message saying I
don't have a Nvidia card. I'm therefore stuck in crappy VGA.

Do you have on-board video?...an add-on card?...or both.

No onboard video, but 1 add-on PCIx card.

Give us the card model. Maybe we can help find some drivers for it.
I'm guessing its either 4x or 8x.

Nvidia GeForce 6200 PCI Express. Drivers I already have.

Let's try to solve your MAJOR problems first...then we can hit the
annoyances. What ISN'T working? Video, I'm guessing. What else?

Video. Sound. TV card (secondary importance!). I haven't even tried USB yet,
if only because W98se doesn't have a great reputation hanbdling it. Once I
get the sound & video going, I'll be a lot happier.

Yup...these are all driver issues.

If you give us the make and model of all yer cards, we can try to help
you get the proper drivers...and hunt for tricks. But we may just be
spinning our wheels.

I have correct drivers already. It is the system that doesn't accept them.

Havin' fun yet?! lol

No!


Here's the report:

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Version AIDA32 v3.93
Author
Homepage http://www.aida32.hu
Report Type Quick Report
Computer DUMPSTER
Generator Argusoog
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98
SE 4.10.2222A (Win98 SE)
Date 2005-01-30
Time 02:54


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]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer:
Operating System Microsoft Windows 98
SE
OS Service Pack None
Internet Explorer 5.00.2614.3500 (IE
5.0 - Windows 98 SE)
Computer Name DUMPSTER
User Name Argusoog

Motherboard:
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4E,
3000 MHz (3.75 x 800)
Motherboard Name Unknown
Motherboard Chipset Intel Grantsdale
i915
System Memory 512 MB
BIOS Type AMI (09/27/04)
Communication Port Communications Port
(COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port
(COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port
(LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter Standard Display
Adapter (VGA)
Monitor Plug and Play
Monitor [NoDB]

Storage:
Floppy Drive GENERIC NEC FLOPPY
DISK
Disk Drive GENERIC IDE DISK
TYPE47
Disk Drive GENERIC IDE DISK
TYPE80
Optical Drive _NEC DVD_RW
ND-3500AG

Partitions:
C: (FAT32) 11441 MB (10986 MB
free)
D: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB
free)
E: (FAT32) 51500 MB (50514 MB
free)
F: (FAT32) 25747 MB (25747 MB
free)
G: (FAT32) 25732 MB (25732 MB
free)
H: (FAT32) 28601 MB (21407 MB
free)
I: (FAT32) 23834 MB (15969 MB
free)
J: (FAT32) 59115 MB (2595 MB
free)
K: (FAT32) 9529 MB (9529 MB
free)

Input:
Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key
or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
Mouse Standard PS/2 Port
Mouse

Network:
Primary IP Address 172.20.64.115
Primary MAC Address 00-11-D8-06-CD-8A
Network Adapter NDIS2 Driver for DOS
v7.03 (20040615) (172.20.64.115)
Network Adapter PPP Adapter.

Problems & Suggestions:
Problem Disk free space is
only 4% on drive J:.


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Inc.
Version 1006.005
Release Date 09/27/2004
Size 512 KB
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Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120
Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow
BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD, BBS
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ESCD, PnP
Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, AGP, USB

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System Properties:
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O.E.M.
Product To Be Filled By
O.E.M.
Version To Be Filled By
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Serial Number To Be Filled By
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Universal Unique ID
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INC.
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Version Rev 1.xx
Serial Number MB-1234567890

[ Chassis ]

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Number
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Power Supply State Safe
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Part Number To Be Filled By
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[ Memory Modules / DIMM1 ]

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[ System Slots / PCIEX16 ]

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[ Port Connectors / PS/2 Mouse ]

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[ Port Connectors / Audio Mic In ]

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CPU 48 °C (118 °F)
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