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Old October 18th 06, 06:13 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Clint
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Default (OT) Most reliable notebooks and desktops available, last couple of years?

I laughed the other day at an MS training opportunity. We were using Sony
laptops, and there was a big sticker on the top of it, that said something
like:

"For your protection and convenience, we recommend only using Sony batteries
and accessories..."

Clint

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S.Lewis wrote:
Times change, companies and their products change.

Gimme your top 3 OEM Windows-based notebook and desktop makers. No need
to
pontificate beyond a few words if you care to comment at all.

Notebooks:

1) Thinkpads (Corporate; durable, quality build and support)
2) Dell: Corporate/Consumer, best combination of quality/features/value
for
the buck
3) ? Toshiba? HP? Sony? Compaq or Gateway? Have no idea.

Desktops:

1) Dell
2) HP
3) Gateway or Sony

Anyone out there who's touched a decent number of recent models by makers
other than Dell? I'm interested to see what opinions are and if any
changes
have taken place.

*FYI - my list is based on limited opinion from reading over the years
and
from working with different brands. Unfortunately, many of those machines
are older and don't reflect current features and build quality.

Stew


They all suck in different ways. Toshibas suck because the support is
terrible. Sony's have lifespan issues (they die too soon), and sony is
a spyware king (they don't admit to it, but they are). Overall quality
is poor. And I expect their laptops to spy on you somehow.

Hp support has been bad, but i've actually seen an improvement, with
the online chat system in resoving a particularly arcane problem. So
they're apparently working on it. Compaq is owned by HP.

Dell machinery in general just works, few lemons. But if you're unlucky
enough to have something go south, good luck getting them to replace
the part. It took ME 3 phone calls, the last of which was nearly an
hour to get them to send me a replacement HDD on behalf of a client. I
TOLD them it was bad, i told them I ran dell's own diagnostics, which
also told me it was bad, i told them i ran indemant unilities which
also told me it was bad. Then they made me do the diagnostics again,
over the phone. Which also told them it was bad. Then the guy's
supervisor told the tech that the OS had gone bad. And for me to format
and reinstall!!!! Bull****! I told him no, that it was unprofessional
to install on OS on a drive I knew to be faulty, and every diagnostic i
had thrown at it confirmed it has bad sectors (I counted over 300, not
just 1 or 2)! Eventually he relented and sent me the hard drive. AARGH!