Hi Skybuck,
Glad you're still having fun with your PIII. That's the name of the game -
*fun*! hang in there. Don't let the pseudo elitists get you down. Thanks
for the tips

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
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Ok,

I just played the game for the first time online with somebody else... via
private lan oh yeah

I totally destroyed him He tried to rush me at the start... but I kept
cool and build larger spaceships with empire fleet...

I then simply destroy his mines which gave him money... (yes in skirmish
mode you need to build mines on asteroids to get more money...) and then I
simply starved him to death... but cutting him off from the money... yup.

He also said the game run twice as slow because of my PIII 450 mhz so
there
you have it

It was pretty cool... but I find it also a little bit disappointing that
there is only one resource on the map... well actually it probably
wouldn't
have mattered if there were multiple... I would simply have cut him off
completely... well he was kinda newbish and didnt play tie fighter...
hopefully he ll be become better and others too Yeah I am sure of
it...
but by then I might be godlike lol hehehe.

Anyway... I like the civilization 3 conquest concept a little better...
there you need different resources to be able to construct say a tank...
or
a knight... you need like rubber, oil, iron, horses etc... very cool game
civ3.

I must admit... I feel slighty frustrated by this game... I dont know
why...
maybe it's because my PIII 450 mhz is just a bit slowish/slugish... that's
probably part of it. The other part is the game is so large and repetitive
I
cant possibly finish it in a day or two... even with non stop playing...
I am already kinda bored with the units... there aren't enough really
hehe. I wish the units had more different firing modes like gc2.

I last but not least... I have the following I already did this all
before... for example... Conquest:Frontier Wars.

Been there, done that... Simply cut off your enemy from resources and
you're
done well almost at least.

I havent tried the multiplayer campaign mode... that will probably take
almost wayyyy too long to play... but still I am gonna try it... at least
there is some more decision making to do... and empire building just like
civ 3 conquest be it more tiny ofcourse.

Well at least people who have few games and actually bought it will be
able
to play this game for a long time... be it repetitive all in all not
too
shabby, not too bad.

It's a nice mix of different kind of games and styles... it just takes so
much time to play this game it's amazing... though half of it is because
of
my slow pc

Well I will make one last comment: The only thing I like to do is play the
story campaign... after playing some ground battles and some space
battles... I am done with that... I even destroyed like 8 imperial star
destroyers with a single 4 level space station hehehe. I also played
skirmish... with AI set at hard and I completely wacked it's ass... Maybe
the AI has not enough brain power because of a lack of cpu power ? who
knows... I simply starved the AI to death... At least in single player
campaign the AI is a lot harder to defeat... that's cool

I wonder how space battles will proceed with more advanced players...

Calling in reinforcements allows spaceships to be placed anywhere on the
visible map (where there is no fog of war....)

That can be very adangerous for an unsuspecting player.... simply stack up
all units in the reinforcements panel.. and then fly a tiny little x-wing
to
the enemies base or other point of attack... and then simply fly
everything
in via the reinforcements panel...

I even wanted to withdraw some units to the reinforcements panel... like
jump back to hyperspace.. but that's not allowed in this game... I find
that
quite lame to be honest...

Ofcourse it's an implementation issue.. maybe they didnt have the time to
implement it...

But here is my advice in case they didn't get it... Simply put a timer on
each spaceship that is retreated from battle... and then later it can jump
back in again or so... after the time has past...

Actually it would be cool if in the meantime it can be repaired... there
is
no repair space ship in this game... that kinda sux too.. I am used to
repairing... repairing rules... it makes you more powerfull...

Well it's kinda funny and cool as well too see damaged spaceships fly
around
with long trails of smoke and plasma coming out...

In skirmish mode it was even possible to play pirate ships... there were
like dead ships in the asteroid fields with lighting and storms... I
placed
such a pirate ship near those dead ships... LOL... and it even fooled
meee...

I didn't notice that it was my ship... it simply looked like a piece of
debris !

That's a great tactic ! Simply mimicing your ship as a piece of debris !
wow


Yeah.

Maybe the starwars universe is just too limited for a really awesome
mother****ing space game Tie fighter did have repair tugs though...

I dont know

I can see a number of possibilities:

1. Another conquest frontier wars game/clone
2. A 3D shooter/flieer like tie fighter based on this game that would be
cool.
3. Simply continue on this path... and make Starwars Empire At War 2 with
lot's of extra's... a repair vehicle, jump in and out of hyperspace...
more
usefull space stations.. repair stations... maybe add some fuel
limitations
and weapon ammo limitations... yeah... ..

Also the hardpoints on the ships are a little bit too easy to destroy with
torpedos... I cant remember them to be that easily destroyed in tie
fighter... I think part of the torpedo was obsorbed by the shields and
part
actually got through and did some damage... but I can be wrong though...
If
only tie fighter would have been this easy lol...

Nononono in tie fighter you first had to take down the shields.... be it
with lasers... or be it with ion cannons... and then you could down some
nice hull or sub system damage...

The ion cannons in this game are pretty useless... or at least of the
y-wings... Actually that doesn't make much sense... The star destroyers
use
ion cannons all the time... and the y-wings can only use it once... I
think
the torpedo stuff for the y-wings is also a bit bugged.. they dont seem to
fire those automatically.. or maybe i am just imaging that... Maybe you
simply have to attack a spaceship with them... and then they ll keep
firing
at the hard points...

I can't remember any tractor beams in tie fighter though.. maybe they were
in there or maybe not... does star wars actually have tractor beams... I
can
remember that scene where the princess ship was captured... but was it
done
with a tractor beam ? and if it was done... wasn't it a redish tractor
beam
? The tractor beam in this game is green ? wtf ? oh well.

Also if they get a larger budget for a sequel.. pls use the original
voices
of those actors and the darth vader dude... it will probably cost a lot of
bucks... but it would make it 10x times better and awesome and coooool.

Yeah and add some more and faster moves for darth vader.. maybe that's one
slow dude lol... or is it my pc lol. hahahahahah.

Hmmm I haven't seen YODA YET ! I know it's in the game somewhere... WHERE
THE **** IS YODA !?! =D

Man give him a little tiny ****ing spacecraft lol... that little TROLL
hahahaha. Let him fend of the imperials with his little wheener space
craft
hehehe.

By the way... The Boba Fett space craft, bombs and sound effect are ULTRA
COOOOLKKWEELLLL =D Well done... I love it...
Piepiepieepiepiepiepiepepeipeie.,, kaaaabbbbsshhhhhwwwwwwwieeeeeeee.
bbzzzzzzzzzzzzztttttttttttt...boemmmm. Kweell.
( It was lot's of fun seeing the AI fly with it half across the fricking
map
it's one fast mother****er wieee)

The luke sky walker "lucky shot" I just did it once... and that was
****ing
cool too... too see those big redish beams coming out of the x-wing...
booom
"use the force luke" "i am with you luke" "block out the rest" yes...I had
to click multiple times on the space station hard point.. because
apperently
luke has to come reaally close or something...

I havent see the death star yet... it's also not in the skirmish mode...
it
could have been cool to still build in skirmish mode or something... Or
simply make a special mode where you are controlling the deathstar... and
you get to man all the space ship lasers... and simply shoot at the
incoming
*******...

The ******* is the other player which is supposed to shoot down the laser
and get to the center of the deathstar... and ****-it-up good. Or simply
on
the surface... whatever... I think the are actually two scenes... one
scene
is on the surface.. .but I can also remember another seen which is inside
the deathstar... I am not sure if the first one was for a star
destroyer...
or if it's part of the death star sequence/scene.

Also... in tie fighter these star destroyers had many many many many many
laser on top and on the bottom...

You can't simply fly over it or past it... or your ass would be TOAST
TOAST
TOAST and TOAST... Only the best pilots like me can DO THAT hahahahaha Yes
you had to !

You had to shoot down all those lasers in one of those missions...
transferring power back and forth across the shields...

Actually I can't believe that I had to completely stay alive in tie
fighter
for the whole game... and I couldn';t die once... wow.. major
accomplishment... ofcourse you could simply replay missions.. but still...
even surviving one mission could be pretty though.

So all I want to say is that the big ships... were a lot harder to kill in
tie fighter... oh yeah.

Seeing a bunch of y-wings... like 2 take down a complete imperial star
destroyer... is pretty bull**** lol... but ok... then again... super
pilots
like me could do that... with an x-wing... take down the lasers first...
and
then later... bomb it...

Actually I think tie fighter had special bombs as well... which needed to
be
released real close...

Yeah... so much stuff is wrong in this new game... I still like it... but
it's waaayyy too easy those space battles.

Yes... the developers should play tie fighter back and forth twice... and
then take a long hard look at their own game... and see what's wrong
heheheheh

Yeah baby. Tie fighter rules man... this game should obey those laws and
rules yeah baby !

Make it though as pie ! wieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Yeah... I am totally not scared for any imperial star destroyer... I
simply
get 2 y-wings... and a few minutes later bye bye star destroyer... ok
that's
a little bit bull**** unless those pilots are godlike

So that's another idea for you right there... "experience".

The longer a spaceships/star fighter survices the more experience it
gets.... Pulling back those experience fighters and repairing them then
makes a lot more sense... those are your top pilots in training even...
and
those can become a lot better...

Now that's something to be scared about.. "top fighter pilots" oh yeah
baby...

But not just some rooky... those should be shot up and cut up into pieces
easily !

Even by the onboard tiny lasers... yeah.

It doesn't have to be a problem you know...

Just add a whole lot of "hard points" or call them "soft points" or "tiny
points" to target...

But dont show them when the view is zoomed out... only show them when the
view is zoomed in...

I believe that is actually the way it worked in tie fighter... you have to
get close to see those points...

And then you can manually target them if you desire to do so... Cool.

So you could simply take your best pilots... zoom into the imperial star
destroyer.. and targer the tiny defense laser towers... and then the pilot
will understand it's mission is too take down those tiny little lasers...
oh
yeah.

After that has happened.. it's more safe for y-wings to get close to those
mother****ers... yeah... y-wings can be equiped with torpedos... or
bombs...
and then bomb that imperial mother****er oh yeah !

Same thing goes for corvettes.. those mother****ers cut you up good in tie
fighter...
Well at least in this game those corvettes shoot down a lot of tie
fighters
as well.. that's good

The space battles in this starwars empire at war game are just waaayyy
tooo
easy =D
god damn =D lol.

Bye,
Skybuck

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
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Hello,

I'll be short

This game gets two exclamation marks because it's a bit repetitive and
the
graphics/ground battle mostly are a bit less but still tactically
interesting.

The best thing about the game are the voices... many, many voices who
tell
a
story.

The best thing about the game is also the story stuff... it's
interesting/intrigueing.

The space battles are also pretty cool.

When I first played this game it was like... mhoaw... i'll probably stop
playing in a short while...

But as I continued playing the game I discovered there is much more to
this
game than meets the eye !

One really has to use strategy/tactics to win space battles and later
also
ground battles... which is quite interesting. Very very cool actually.

People who played Tie-Figther will have a big edge in this game.

Here are some examples which will definetly help you in this new game:

1. While defending space stations, look carefully which units are
attacking
the space station and attack them. This will drive them away from the
space
station. That's important. As long as the space station survives, the
hanger
will produce new units for you...

2. Clear the path for y-wings to take bombing runs.

3. Use x-wings to attack tie-bombers.

4. Use corvettes to shoot down tie-fighters and tie-bombers.

5. There is also a new unit some kind of missile launcher...

6. The gunboats are also good at shooting down the little crafts or other
gunboats.

Some units are missing though from tie-fighter:

Where is the assault gun boat ? I guess it's replaced with this
gunboat... though it looks a bit different.

7. Target the shield generators... then kill off the hangers and then the
torpedos launchers... all with torpedos from y-wings=rebel bombers

8. When the going gets though, the though get going.... simply call in
reinforcements... (I figured this out a bit late... I forgot about
this...
I
learned it in the demo.. but forgot).

You can have bigger space fleets... but only 25 units can be present on
the
map (for rebels) and it seems 20 for empire... but after stuff gets
destroyed you can call in reinforcements.

9. Corvettes as I call them.... can be used to draw fire away from other
ships by moving them in front of the destroyers and setting engines to
full
and moving really fast past them.

10. The missile cruisers as I call them are the most dangerous units so
far... then can shoot down whole squadrans of y-wings, x-wings,
tie-fighters
and tie-bombers... you ll loose them in the blink of an eye/explosion. So
you will first need to clear the path for them to proceed by shooting
down
these missile cruisers with gunboats =D and other stufffff.

You can also play with darth vader and here him breeeath hehehe and there
is
so much more to this game.

However I played the game with an overclocked system/pc and it gave
exceptions... euh I think it ****ed up my save game because I cant steal
the
last tech level for the rebels.. or maybe it's a bug or maybe that tech
can
only be stolen later... I am not sure.... I also got tired of defending
and
doing the same battleground stuff... so I simply let the empire take some
planets... that was a bad decision because the empire builds up fast (at
least at medium difficulty which is what I play) The empire will become
filthy rich and much harder to kill... so it would have been easier to
defend in the first place instead of re-concuering later...

Anyway I was kinda newbish at first... but now I am a much better player
so
it will probably be easier to restart anyway and build a huge fleet and
simply use auto resolve to proceed/progress through the dull missions

Yeah baby... that's what I did when I played with the empire and it
worked
pretty well

I still haven't played multiplayer yet... The game also has many extra
little story campaings etc.

I can tell this game has a lot of content which is quite unussual... most
games I have played I simply finish in one or two days non-stop...

But this game is going to take many days maybe even weeks maybe even
months
to complete... yeah especially on my slow ass pc hehe. Soon I'll have
a
new pc though believe it !

Sometimes on my PIII 450 mhz it sometimes freezes a bit during space
battles
probably because of some explosions...

They do look beautifull though... when the big ships break up... and go
bang, booom etc... it can take a very long time before a victory star
destroyers has completely broken up into pieces and blown up... though
that's not the problem I think... it's probably all the ai for the
missiles
and little explosions that make it a bit freeze or maybe sometime else
was
going on... Well most of the time it plays smooth... but a bit slow
probably... I wonder how fast everything goes on a faster pc.

For all starwars fans, x-wing fans, tie-fighter fans, etc... this game is
definetly pretty good and you simply have to see, play it to believe it,
too
experience it.

It's definetly worth a download and maybe even buying it lol.

It's especially fun if you played x-wing or tie-fighter !

It's simply amazing and interesting to play it as a commander from the
outside and command and have them do all the things that you had to do in
x-wing and tie-fighter !

You will definetly be a much better commander if you played tie-fighter
as
well =D

That's just ****ing cool ! =D

Newbies will simply have to figure it out some other way and get wacked
by
the ai and online I guess

Learn from the great lol.

Arrrghhhhh, may the force and the power be with you !!!! =D

"SighhhArrghhhhh, I find your lack of faith disturbing !" =D

For all doubters: give this game a ****ing try ! =D Yeaaaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa.


It's just worth it.... LOOK AT THE GOD DAMN EXPLOSION
WIEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I know what you think... an explosion ? that's hardly worth it.

NO MAN !

Total and other destruction of VICTORY STAR DESTROYER SPACE SHIPS..

BREAK UP, TURN, BOOM, BAM, CRUSH, BREAK UP, BOOM, TURN, DIE, FLOAT, ****
YEAH, PIECES, DESTRUCTION MAN, you simply have to witness wieeeeee.

I love seeing those suckers die and break up and blast to pieces... it's
the
sweet taste of victory YEAH BABY !

Bye,
Skybuck.