On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:04:22 -0500, "Tony DiMarzio"
wrote:


Shill? Look I know it's much more "cool" to criticize than to compliment,
but, credit where credit's due, sport. There is absolutely no empirical data
to show that your "certain n company"'s drivers are in any way "better" than
ATI's. Any claims to the contrary are at best anecdotal and incidental and
at worse flat out lies.

Nope, at best they're generous.
ATI doesn't give a damn about their customers. I've had
over a dozen servers that can't even uninstall ATI's driver
because their driver was broken and they were too apathetic
to bother fixing it. They take a "tough luck, buy our next
product and everything will be wonderful" attitude. It gets
old after a while.



X1900XT has decent, even very good performnace. It has to
use ATI drivers though, and in a few months it won't be
fastest anymore. Coupling it with a particluar motherboard
is just silly.

Yes, normally ATI cards DO use ATI drivers. Your point? Or was that another
implied "ATI drivers are the debil!" comment?


You know my point was that ATI's drivers are the weak link.
You knew it all along too, because there have been plenty of
people over the years commenting about it.

In a few months nothing will
be "fastest" any more. That's the name of the game. So if you're referring
to G71, then _assuming_ it does surpass X1900XTX, then expect a crown time
of no more than 6 months. "Coupling it with a particular motherboard is just
silly" ? Uh, silly to use an NForce mobo with high end NVidia cards or vice
versa?

Yes. But even more specifically I meant what was replied
to, a PARTICULAR motherboard, moreso than a particular
chipset. You do understand the difference?





If you're gonna be brand loyal then be brand loyal. Nothing wrong with
that.

Actually yes there is something wrong with that when your
loyality causes you to see the world through colored
glasses. Products should be chosen in their merits, not
their brand, and also recognized to have faults. That you
don't care about a fault or don't see it in a particular
application is no consolation to another user who has
different hardware or application needs.

Brand loyalty is a necessary component of the capitalistic model.

No, it's for the brain-dead.

It's the
natural result of positive experiences by the buyer

Nope, it's what happens when one has insufficient experience
to make a proper evaluation of the alternatives.

and is the reward to the
seller for offering good products/services.

Maybe in your fairy-tale world.
When I buy a product, their "reward" is my payment for that
product. If they make another product I want, their reward
is again payment for that 2nd product, and so on. You are
describing a fanboy.

Basically, there's nothing
inherently wrong with it.

LOL. You must be joking.
Yeah let's just ignore reality and pretend the grass we're
sitting on is always greenest. Sorry but that's no good.

However, and like you said, "when it causes you to
see the world through colored glasses" then there is something wrong with
it. Now, please explain to me how I'm looking at the world through colored
glasses.

It wouldn't do any good because you see no problem with
being irrational.

We're not talking about standing behind a inferior product.

Only because we includes you. A product comprised of both
hardware and software can fail on either front. If you like
the hardware enough to put up with the software, that's
fine, it's your money. That doesn't begain to mean another
person couldn't have a different priority, particularly if
they weren't trying to buy among the fastest video card at
any given moment but rather, the majority of the market.

We're
talking a company that currently has the fastest and most complex consumer
3D acceleration hardware in the world and that has consistently been toe to
toe with it's largest competitor. This is Honda vs Toyota, not Pontiac vs
BMW.

Yes you are oblivious to anything but "fastest", it would
seem, else you wouldn't be making it a primary point here.

It could definitely be like comparing Pontiac to BMW, that
GM merely shoehorned a monsterous engine in a Sunbird so it
has a great 0-60 time. Granted, it's not that ATI is lower
quality than, oh take Sis for example, but being a fanboy
doesn't begin to make them any better by will alone.