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Old March 29th 07, 01:46 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Barry Watzman
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Default Looking for a "pretty good" PCI-E video card ...

The X1300 and many other ATI chips CAN support Hypermemory (shared
memory), but it's only an option, and in any given installation they
either may or may not. In most cases, when they are on a motherboard or
in a laptops, Hypermemory is used, but when the chip is on a PCI Express
or even AGP add-on card, the card has it's own dedicated memory and
Hypermemory is not used. However, these are only general rules, any
given implementation may or may not implement Hypermemory.


Tony Pacc wrote:
Well look at this http://ati.amd.com/technology/hypermemory.html
it sure shows a lot of ati cards including the x 1300
"J. Clarke" wrote in message
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Tony Pacc wrote:
Ati 1300 uses Hypermemory,I have 1300 Pro and pretty sure it uses
Hypermemory.


Check again and you'll find that it has 256 MB or more of GDDR2 RAM on
board.

You need to read the specs on the _board_, not the _chip_.

You'll mostly find Hypermemory on low-end laptops but actually it's rare
even there--usually the low end will use Intel embedded video instead of
ATI.

"Augustus" wrote in message
news:%NWNh.15566$__3.7401@edtnps90...

"Mr.E Solved!" wrote in message
news J. Clarke wrote:
Augustus wrote:
"Barry Watzman" wrote in message
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Hey, Sky King: It just doesn't make to get a card that's not
Vista (Aero) compatible when one that is doesn't cost any more.
Without regard to whether or not one has current plans to
actually use Vista (plans change).
This is essentially my point.

I don't know what you people are on about. It's hard to find a
PCI-Express video board that is _not_ "Aero compatible". You'd
have to pretty much set out deliberately to find one. Seems to me
that it's a non-issue.



I believe they are confusing 'Aero' compatibility or capabilities
with either HDCP or DX10 compatibilities, as you say, nearly every
card will run desktop compositioning, including non current cards.

DX10 compliance, a whole different issue. The mainstream GeForce 8
series will be available in about two weeks, so there will be more

No, I'm not confusing Aero compatability with DX10 compliance. Vista
Aero on a low memory 64bit turbo-cache or hypermemory style card
will wok but is not desirable. It has sluggish performance compared
to even the 1300 series and 7300 cards. And there's plenty of bottom
feeder cards out there with 64bit memory and low dedicated RAM.
Vista Aero doesn't require much. But you will defintely feel a
difference between a 64bit 7100LE Turbocache or a 64 bit 1550
Hypermemory versus a "real" low end 7300 or 1300 series given the
same hardware.


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