On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 07:13:40 GMT, johny wrote:
AMD 64 3200 - Idling at 65 degress
Just build A64 2800+ system on MSI K8T Neo FISR MB. Same problem as Jason
has. Idling at 63C, loaded at max 77C! Yes it is the new processor with
NewCastle core, Family F Model C Stepping 0. In the store where I bought the
hardware, I was told that its the problem with the new NewCastle core
reporting the temps incorrectly. If it wasn't so, and the actual die temp
was 77C, wouldn't my cpu be dead already?
Coaimhghin says:
The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent
damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating.
Okay, where does this "overheating protection" read the temperature from? Is
there some OnDie sensor for overheating protection that we can't get reading
from?

If the overheating temperature exists and functions properly, shouldn't I be
able to remove my HSF from the CPU completely and watch the system shut down
automaticaly in few minutes? AMD Product Spec says Max Die temp can be 85C.

85C is for 32-bit chips 2200+ and higher. Max case temp for 64-bit is 70C
(mobile chips are 95C). My HP a530n BIOS (Asus KBN8X-LA mobo) shows my
AMD 64 3200+ (2000 MHz) about 45C, which is only in upper 40's at full
load (fire.exe). It idles at 38C.

As a comparison Compaq 32-bit AMD XP 3000+ (2100 MHz) shows 65C in BIOS,
69C CPU under full load, 48C idle. But it is rated 85C case temp.

Just updated the BIOS to latest revision, it doesn't fix the problem.

How does BIOS temperature compare with temperatures you are seeing?

Okay, anybody has the same problem, solution to this problem or answers to
my questions, any help is much appreciated.





"Caoimhghin" wrote in
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"Jason" wrote in message
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Hi all,

Another temperature related question. Reading back through this group
I can see there has been much discussion regarding this. Anyway I
have an AMD 64 3200 with a Gigabyte K8NS Pro motherboard and the CPU
runs at 60-65 degrees when nothing (apart from windows) is running.
Give the CPU something to think about and it reaches 75 degrees.

My question is simple - should I be worried about these kind of
temperatures?

Kind Regards,

Jason

Use a program like CPU-Z to verify which AMD64 you have, if it's the
latest
Newcastle core, i.e. Family=F, Model=C, Stepping=0 then there is a known
temperature monitoring issue with the motherboard BIOS, as far as I know
this affects all K8 motherboards. Some motherboard manufacturers like
Abit
have already addressed this problem and the temperatures are showing
around
20C less.

The AMD64 will 'shut down' if the core temperature exceeds 70C to prevent
damage, if your system is stable it isn't over heating. You should check
in
a Gigabyte forum to see if others are experiencing similar problems and
get
Gigabyte to address the problem.






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