"--Jerry--" wrote in message ...
If you have any GF4 card you do not need to upgrade your graphic card for
next 3-6 months and then a new GPU must appear. All games are running OK on
full GF4 cards (NOT MX!!!). I tested Radeon R9700 and FX 5900 and I did not
notice any improvement in speed in any applications. All that was present
was a DX 9 support and I could see that only in benchmarks like 3D Mark etc.
Drivers are so well opimised for GF4 cards that I was surprised that FX and
Radeon cards do not bring any noticable acceleration exept in tests. That is
valid for any GF 4 card (Ti 4200, 4400, 4600 and 4800SE). Any MX card is
slow and it is worth to upgrade.
And one thing - ATI drivers sucks. ATI cards are so fast, picture is so
sharp, colours are so vivid but drivers... They are not so bad in Windows
but in games are horrible. Flashing shadows, missing textures, missing
distant objects etc. So if you are using Nvidia based card you are going to
be very dissapointed if you upgrade to ATI card (no, I am not working in
Nvidia marketing departement) and that is a fact that prevent me from
keeping ATI R9700 card in my PC. Look how often new ATI drivers appear. All
users that are using ATI cards admitt that there are some problems with
drivers. Some of them never used Nvidia cards and they do not know how
important good drivers are.
So for now I am still using my Ti4800SE and am waiting for new card from
Nvidia.

Strange... I got a nice 9500 Pro, second hand, plays games great. Yeah
I know it might be not the fastest in DX8, It has slight limitations
versus it's bigger brothers.....

But the drivers are rock stable 3.8 and up are great. I though use
omegacorner drivers!

There is not much direct improvement, what you get with the 9700 Pro
card. But indeed, FSAA works better for instance.

And yes nvidia drivers work pretty fine, and runs games but rather
show not that what has to be shown then that it simply refuses.

Every game I had I could play on my ati 9500 Pro card, the few games
that had problems had it solved with the next driver version.

I self also still got an ti4800SE and...umm..do not install the latest
forceware on them, they get unstable.

Maybe indeed pre 3.1 had nvidia definitly better driver support, but
currently nvidia is crapping in, great cards still but their drivers
are getting worse fast.

While the ati drivers only get better.... strange.

:-)