Nvidia XT cards are not trash. They just are not clocked as high. They are
not like ATI's SE cards that come neutered with pipes disabled or half the
memory bus.

Dave


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"dino" wrote in message
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Ti4200 is the way to go..I HAD a FX5600-256mg 128 bit card...my Ti4200
was
way faster...I ditched the FX for a Raedon9600 XT..but it is only the
newer
series of Raedons that are real performers..get the Ti4200

The real DX9 cards indeed start with the R9500 and the R9700 chipset.
Then the R9600 and the R9800 came

Though there are also SE versions and those generally not as good (
crippled memory bandwidth ) but those who are not crippled perform
fine, even my R9500Pro still runs games great and it's already 1 year
old.

Now that is good stuff!

In case of nvidia.. the FX does DX9, though the FX5200 ( any version )
is to damn slow for it

The FX5600 is subpar...

The FX5700 finally cought the win

The FX5800 was a failed experiment, though fast on some points...
lacks much on others

FX5900 is finally the first that actually has what you can say of "a
gaming card"

The FX5950 is just a basic overclocked FX5900

Again...

XT version in case of nvidia are..trash! The 5900XT though seem to be
reasonable succesfull, though it's limits!

Non Ultra, the basic card
Ultra, faster card
Special Edition ( SE ), ... look it up yourself

Ah yes...

So the market is not really clear, one thing is sure, every month a
new card is king of this newsgroup!