Square peg in a round hole....
Okay, my current setup:
Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
aint the bartons 200fsb (ddr400)? so why 2700 ram? and why matched pair? if
the barton was 166fsb (ddr333) then i`d still get the pc3200 and push upto 200fsb 2700 is only 'rated' for ddr333 matched pair is a con for the extra few quid - i didnt bother. i`m running dual channel TwinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) PC3200 2x 512mb on nforce2 asus a7n8x deluxe - were bought at the same time, from the same supplier, for £80 for both iirc. were from www.komplett.co.uk tim "mike" wrote in message ... Okay, my current setup: Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
The 2500+ Barton is 166Mhz FSB so PC2700 is the proper match. I may bo
PC3200 if the price difference is minimal. As for matched pair, the shuttle AN35N motherboard uses the Nvidia nforce2 chipset. Using 2 pieces of matched ram and the motherboard will treat the memory subsystem as double width for a huge increase in memory performance. By matched though, I don't mean anything other than 2 pieces of identically speced ram preferably from the same batch. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:38:46 +0000 (UTC), "O |V| 3 G A" wrote: aint the bartons 200fsb (ddr400)? so why 2700 ram? and why matched pair? if the barton was 166fsb (ddr333) then i`d still get the pc3200 and push upto 200fsb 2700 is only 'rated' for ddr333 matched pair is a con for the extra few quid - i didnt bother. i`m running dual channel TwinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) PC3200 2x 512mb on nforce2 asus a7n8x deluxe - were bought at the same time, from the same supplier, for £80 for both iirc. were from www.komplett.co.uk tim "mike" wrote in message .. . Okay, my current setup: Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
Mike,
I don't know if my results are typical, and I'm not an expert, but I don't even have the same brand. Memory Module 1 : AMD 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) Memory Module 2 : Kingston 1213EB05 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) As soon as I put the Kingston RAM in, the bootup screen showed Dual DDR. But, the performance increase is really small. It seems a lot of companies are selling "matched sets" for twice the price, alluding to twice the performance. I understand the actual performance increase is more like 2%. However; I'm certainly willing to hear from someone more knowledgeable. John "mike" wrote in message ... The 2500+ Barton is 166Mhz FSB so PC2700 is the proper match. I may bo PC3200 if the price difference is minimal. As for matched pair, the shuttle AN35N motherboard uses the Nvidia nforce2 chipset. Using 2 pieces of matched ram and the motherboard will treat the memory subsystem as double width for a huge increase in memory performance. By matched though, I don't mean anything other than 2 pieces of identically speced ram preferably from the same batch. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:38:46 +0000 (UTC), "O |V| 3 G A" wrote: aint the bartons 200fsb (ddr400)? so why 2700 ram? and why matched pair? if the barton was 166fsb (ddr333) then i`d still get the pc3200 and push upto 200fsb 2700 is only 'rated' for ddr333 matched pair is a con for the extra few quid - i didnt bother. i`m running dual channel TwinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) PC3200 2x 512mb on nforce2 asus a7n8x deluxe - were bought at the same time, from the same supplier, for £80 for both iirc. were from www.komplett.co.uk tim "mike" wrote in message .. . Okay, my current setup: Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
well, since we`re giving figures, here`s mine
twinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) pc3200 (DDR400), 2x256mb, a7n8x dlx rev2.0+ uber BIOS 1005+SATA - 205fsb (DDR410) with memory timings on 3-3-2-2. very tight timings and ultra stable. as john said - he uses different branded ram, and i`ve heard of similar occurances in here, but working perfectly fine in D-DDR mode. i`ve tried it aswell - a giel 256mb and a seitek 512mb module (both pc2700) running in D-DDR before my upgrade to this twinmos stuff. obviously not ideal setup, but it does prove that matched pair's aint as crucial as the sellers/manufactures claim. more money in their back pocket than yours. tim "John" Reply.Group.Only@nospam wrote in message .. . Mike, I don't know if my results are typical, and I'm not an expert, but I don't even have the same brand. Memory Module 1 : AMD 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) Memory Module 2 : Kingston 1213EB05 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) As soon as I put the Kingston RAM in, the bootup screen showed Dual DDR. But, the performance increase is really small. It seems a lot of companies are selling "matched sets" for twice the price, alluding to twice the performance. I understand the actual performance increase is more like 2%. However; I'm certainly willing to hear from someone more knowledgeable. John "mike" wrote in message ... The 2500+ Barton is 166Mhz FSB so PC2700 is the proper match. I may bo PC3200 if the price difference is minimal. As for matched pair, the shuttle AN35N motherboard uses the Nvidia nforce2 chipset. Using 2 pieces of matched ram and the motherboard will treat the memory subsystem as double width for a huge increase in memory performance. By matched though, I don't mean anything other than 2 pieces of identically speced ram preferably from the same batch. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:38:46 +0000 (UTC), "O |V| 3 G A" wrote: aint the bartons 200fsb (ddr400)? so why 2700 ram? and why matched pair? if the barton was 166fsb (ddr333) then i`d still get the pc3200 and push upto 200fsb 2700 is only 'rated' for ddr333 matched pair is a con for the extra few quid - i didnt bother. i`m running dual channel TwinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) PC3200 2x 512mb on nforce2 asus a7n8x deluxe - were bought at the same time, from the same supplier, for £80 for both iirc. were from www.komplett.co.uk tim "mike" wrote in message .. . Okay, my current setup: Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
My memory is not matched, but I also don't see any difference if I run it in
dual or normal operation. "O |V| 3 G A" wrote in message ... well, since we`re giving figures, here`s mine twinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) pc3200 (DDR400), 2x256mb, a7n8x dlx rev2.0+ uber BIOS 1005+SATA - 205fsb (DDR410) with memory timings on 3-3-2-2. very tight timings and ultra stable. as john said - he uses different branded ram, and i`ve heard of similar occurances in here, but working perfectly fine in D-DDR mode. i`ve tried it aswell - a giel 256mb and a seitek 512mb module (both pc2700) running in D-DDR before my upgrade to this twinmos stuff. obviously not ideal setup, but it does prove that matched pair's aint as crucial as the sellers/manufactures claim. more money in their back pocket than yours. tim "John" Reply.Group.Only@nospam wrote in message .. . Mike, I don't know if my results are typical, and I'm not an expert, but I don't even have the same brand. Memory Module 1 : AMD 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) Memory Module 2 : Kingston 1213EB05 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC2700U-2533-700 (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz) As soon as I put the Kingston RAM in, the bootup screen showed Dual DDR. But, the performance increase is really small. It seems a lot of companies are selling "matched sets" for twice the price, alluding to twice the performance. I understand the actual performance increase is more like 2%. However; I'm certainly willing to hear from someone more knowledgeable. John "mike" wrote in message ... The 2500+ Barton is 166Mhz FSB so PC2700 is the proper match. I may bo PC3200 if the price difference is minimal. As for matched pair, the shuttle AN35N motherboard uses the Nvidia nforce2 chipset. Using 2 pieces of matched ram and the motherboard will treat the memory subsystem as double width for a huge increase in memory performance. By matched though, I don't mean anything other than 2 pieces of identically speced ram preferably from the same batch. On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:38:46 +0000 (UTC), "O |V| 3 G A" wrote: aint the bartons 200fsb (ddr400)? so why 2700 ram? and why matched pair? if the barton was 166fsb (ddr333) then i`d still get the pc3200 and push upto 200fsb 2700 is only 'rated' for ddr333 matched pair is a con for the extra few quid - i didnt bother. i`m running dual channel TwinMOS (with winbond CH-5 controller) PC3200 2x 512mb on nforce2 asus a7n8x deluxe - were bought at the same time, from the same supplier, for £80 for both iirc. were from www.komplett.co.uk tim "mike" wrote in message .. . Okay, my current setup: Athlon XP 2400+ retail running at 2240 (reads as a 2600+) Shuttle AN35N m/b 2x512Mb PC2100 sticks of ram (not matched) at 140Mhz on the bus Connect3D 9600 Pro 128Mb (overclocked core - 490/memory - 702) Samsung SP1203N 120Gb ATA133 HD LG 52/24/52 CD-R Windows XP Pro sp1 It all runs quite well. A friend of mine wanted my 2400+ so I bought a 2500+ Barton. I'm going to have to run it with a 140Mhz bus for a month or two till I can pry loose enough money to get a matched pair of PC2700 ram. Anyone running a Barton at 133Mhz and using the multiplier to clock it up? Wondering how well this will work or will I have to live with it at a lower clock speed until I get the proper ram? |
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