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i'm_tired November 5th 03 01:38 AM

M$oft didn't choose either nVidia nor ATI for X-Box
 
http://news.com.com/2100-1043-5102081.html

an exerpt

[...]" "We're integrating SIS' cutting-edge, media I/O technologies into
future products to create innovative Xbox products and services that serve
the digital entertainment lifestyle." Todd Holmdahl, general manager of Xbox
hardware, said in a statement.

Changing partners comes with advantages and risks, said Kevin Krewell,
senior editor of The Microprocessor Report. On one hand, Microsoft will get
access to a broad new portfolio of intellectual property it can use to
fashion customized chips for its console.

Switching partners can also clear away some of the bad feelings that arose
in regard to the first Xbox. For Intel, supplying 733-MHz Pentium IIIs to
Microsoft had become a low-margin business, Krewell said. Nvidia and
Microsoft, meanwhile, went to arbitration over their contract. At the time,
Nvidia was afraid that it would get stuck with unusable chips or have to
sell parts at a loss. " [...]



i'm_tired November 5th 03 01:39 AM




Darthy November 5th 03 03:13 AM

Simply proves that going into the bedroom with M$ means getting it the
ass... the only true unknown, is if KY Jelly is used or not.

Perhaps... Nvidia refused to work on the XBox2?

Xbox2 sales are still weak, I would never buy one. Unlike SONY and
Nintendo - M$ hasn't made a dime on the XBOX.


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:38:04 GMT, "i'm_tired"
wrote:

http://news.com.com/2100-1043-5102081.html

an exerpt

[...]" "We're integrating SIS' cutting-edge, media I/O technologies into
future products to create innovative Xbox products and services that serve
the digital entertainment lifestyle." Todd Holmdahl, general manager of Xbox
hardware, said in a statement.

Changing partners comes with advantages and risks, said Kevin Krewell,
senior editor of The Microprocessor Report. On one hand, Microsoft will get
access to a broad new portfolio of intellectual property it can use to
fashion customized chips for its console.

Switching partners can also clear away some of the bad feelings that arose
in regard to the first Xbox. For Intel, supplying 733-MHz Pentium IIIs to
Microsoft had become a low-margin business, Krewell said. Nvidia and
Microsoft, meanwhile, went to arbitration over their contract. At the time,
Nvidia was afraid that it would get stuck with unusable chips or have to
sell parts at a loss. " [...]



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zlo November 5th 03 03:39 AM

yeah you are right.. Xbox2 sales are pretty weak right now. however, the
xbox is doing great, and much better than the gamecube is doing. it is also
catching up to PS2 now, because we all know that the xbox is more future
proof than the other two, and the gamecube/ps2 technology is just old and
weak. people are getting tired of them now, and it is showing in increased
xbox sales. it will only continue upward until the xbox2 is released.


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"Darthy" wrote in message
...
Simply proves that going into the bedroom with M$ means getting it the
ass... the only true unknown, is if KY Jelly is used or not.

Perhaps... Nvidia refused to work on the XBox2?

Xbox2 sales are still weak, I would never buy one. Unlike SONY and
Nintendo - M$ hasn't made a dime on the XBOX.


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:38:04 GMT, "i'm_tired"
wrote:

http://news.com.com/2100-1043-5102081.html

an exerpt

[...]" "We're integrating SIS' cutting-edge, media I/O technologies into
future products to create innovative Xbox products and services that

serve
the digital entertainment lifestyle." Todd Holmdahl, general manager of

Xbox
hardware, said in a statement.

Changing partners comes with advantages and risks, said Kevin Krewell,
senior editor of The Microprocessor Report. On one hand, Microsoft will

get
access to a broad new portfolio of intellectual property it can use to
fashion customized chips for its console.

Switching partners can also clear away some of the bad feelings that

arose
in regard to the first Xbox. For Intel, supplying 733-MHz Pentium IIIs to
Microsoft had become a low-margin business, Krewell said. Nvidia and
Microsoft, meanwhile, went to arbitration over their contract. At the

time,
Nvidia was afraid that it would get stuck with unusable chips or have to
sell parts at a loss. " [...]



--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!




ec November 5th 03 03:39 AM


"Darthy" wrote in message
...
Simply proves that going into the bedroom with M$ means getting it the
ass... the only true unknown, is if KY Jelly is used or not.

Perhaps... Nvidia refused to work on the XBox2?

Xbox2 sales are still weak, I would never buy one. Unlike SONY and
Nintendo - M$ hasn't made a dime on the XBOX.


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 00:38:04 GMT, "i'm_tired"
wrote:

http://news.com.com/2100-1043-5102081.html

an exerpt

[...]" "We're integrating SIS' cutting-edge, media I/O technologies into
future products to create innovative Xbox products and services that

serve
the digital entertainment lifestyle." Todd Holmdahl, general manager of

Xbox
hardware, said in a statement.

Changing partners comes with advantages and risks, said Kevin Krewell,
senior editor of The Microprocessor Report. On one hand, Microsoft will

get
access to a broad new portfolio of intellectual property it can use to
fashion customized chips for its console.

Switching partners can also clear away some of the bad feelings that

arose
in regard to the first Xbox. For Intel, supplying 733-MHz Pentium IIIs to
Microsoft had become a low-margin business, Krewell said. Nvidia and
Microsoft, meanwhile, went to arbitration over their contract. At the

time,
Nvidia was afraid that it would get stuck with unusable chips or have to
sell parts at a loss. " [...]



--
Remember when real men used Real computers!?
When 512K of video RAM was a lot!

Death to Palladium & WPA!!


Xbox2 doesn't even exist so how the **** are its "sales weak"? Moron.



Lenny November 5th 03 06:34 AM


however, the
xbox is doing great, and much better than the gamecube is doing


And you got concrete numbers backing that up of course, right?

Anyway, what does sales matter? Get the system with the games you like, why
do you care which system SELLS the most? Do you buy cars too simply because
one model sells more than the others?

. it is also catching up to PS2 now, because we all know that the xbox is

more future
proof than the other two, and the gamecube/ps2 technology is just old and
weak. people are getting tired of them now, and it is showing in increased
xbox sales.


Haha, you fanboys are so amusing. Catching up to PS2? When do you expect XB
to catch up, really? Sometime before 2006, or after? ;) Sony only has a 30+
million unit head-start after all.

When your market penetration has reached the level Sony has, naturally sales
will start to slow since most people who want a PS2 will already have one.
Expect Sony to start lowering their prices more.

it will only continue upward until the xbox2 is released.


No, it won't, XB sales will start to slow too, especially as the next
generation of consoles approaches. That's only natural, except to die-hard
fanboy nutcases that let their self-image be controlled by the market
performance of their hardware of choice...



TheHasselhoff November 5th 03 07:18 AM

And you got concrete numbers backing that up of course, right?

Um... it's pretty common knowledge that Xbox is the clear winner of the #2
console position. It has been for over 6 months. I recommend checking out
just about ANY console gaming website, you'll get your numbers there.


Anyway, what does sales matter? Get the system with the games you like,

why
do you care which system SELLS the most?


Because people don't want to buy a system that doesn't have longevity. Why
spend all that money on a console that won't have any new games made in six
months? Its why the Dreamcast was commanding a $100 price tag - right up
until the moment Sega announced support was ending.


Do you buy cars too simply because
one model sells more than the others?


Well, that's a really bad analogy - but, then again, I would think that
replacement parts for a well-selling car would be cheaper than others.
(Yes, this has nothing to do with consoles, but like I said - your analogy
is really bad.)


Haha, you fanboys are so amusing. Catching up to PS2? When do you expect

XB
to catch up, really? Sometime before 2006, or after? ;) Sony only has a

30+
million unit head-start after all.


MS won't catch up to the PS2 - but the next generation of consoles (Xbox2,
PS3) will be a different story. While I think Sony will still have an edge,
MS will be much closer in that battle.



TheHasselhoff November 5th 03 07:19 AM

Xbox2 sales are still weak, I would never buy one.

Gee, Mr. McFly, I guess you spent all of your money on a new DeLorean or
something?



TheForce November 5th 03 09:02 AM

All of the money you made on sports bets???
"TheHasselhoff" wrote in message
. com...
Xbox2 sales are still weak, I would never buy one.


Gee, Mr. McFly, I guess you spent all of your money on a new DeLorean or
something?





zlo November 5th 03 09:54 AM

dude, from my perception, xbox is the clear choice. i'm an artist, and i
like pretty games that run smooth. i can't even watch the ugliness of ps2
games. you however must be able to withstand it. so whatever your opinion
is, you can have your ps2. i'm happy for ya

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"Lenny" wrote in message
...

however, the
xbox is doing great, and much better than the gamecube is doing


And you got concrete numbers backing that up of course, right?

Anyway, what does sales matter? Get the system with the games you like,

why
do you care which system SELLS the most? Do you buy cars too simply

because
one model sells more than the others?

. it is also catching up to PS2 now, because we all know that the xbox is

more future
proof than the other two, and the gamecube/ps2 technology is just old

and
weak. people are getting tired of them now, and it is showing in

increased
xbox sales.


Haha, you fanboys are so amusing. Catching up to PS2? When do you expect

XB
to catch up, really? Sometime before 2006, or after? ;) Sony only has a

30+
million unit head-start after all.

When your market penetration has reached the level Sony has, naturally

sales
will start to slow since most people who want a PS2 will already have one.
Expect Sony to start lowering their prices more.

it will only continue upward until the xbox2 is released.


No, it won't, XB sales will start to slow too, especially as the next
generation of consoles approaches. That's only natural, except to die-hard
fanboy nutcases that let their self-image be controlled by the market
performance of their hardware of choice...






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