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SST July 4th 03 04:28 PM

Happy Birthday America
 
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to
dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to
assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to
which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect
to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes
which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure
these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just
powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of
Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People
to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to
them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence,
indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed
for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn,
that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than
to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide
new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance
of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to
alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of
Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having
in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the
public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing
importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be
obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts
of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation
in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants
only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable,
and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole
purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly
firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to
be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have
returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in
the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and
convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that
purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to
pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions
of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to
Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their
offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of
Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent
of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the
Civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our
constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their
Acts of pretended Legislation:
For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which
they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province,
establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries
so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the
same absolute rule into these Colonies:
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and
altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with
power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and
waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and
destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to
compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with
circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous
ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to
bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends
and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to
bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages,
whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages,
sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the
most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by
repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which
may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have
warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an
unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the
circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to
their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties
of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably
interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the
voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the
necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the
rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in
General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for
the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the
good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these
United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States;
that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that
all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and
ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they
have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish
Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may
of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance
on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our
Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The 56 signatures on the Declaration appear in the positions indicated:

Column 1
Georgia:
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
George Walton

Column 2
North Carolina:
William Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn
South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Arthur Middleton

Column 3
Massachusetts:
John Hancock
Maryland:
Samuel Chase
William Paca
Thomas Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia:
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Harrison
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton

Column 4
Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
John Morton
George Clymer
James Smith
George Taylor
James Wilson
George Ross
Delawa
Caesar Rodney
George Read
Thomas McKean

Column 5
New York:
William Floyd
Philip Livingston
Francis Lewis
Lewis Morris
New Jersey:
Richard Stockton
John Witherspoon
Francis Hopkinson
John Hart
Abraham Clark

Column 6
New Hampshi
Josiah Bartlett
William Whipple
Massachusetts:
Samuel Adams
John Adams
Robert Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins
William Ellery
Connecticut:
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
William Williams
Oliver Wolcott
New Hampshi
Matthew Thornton




Kai Robinson July 4th 03 04:31 PM

Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah



SST July 4th 03 04:40 PM

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just

for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah





One Punch Mickey July 4th 03 05:13 PM


Yes! Let's stop eating french fries again! Wait, that would mean we'd have
to stop eating crap junk food! Let's rename them instead! As if we were a
bunch of ****ing 4-year-olds in a schoolyard fight!

--
* -
* - Nicotine, valium, vicadin, marijuana, ecstasy, and alcohol.
* - C-c-c-c-c-cocaine ...
* -

Kai Robinson July 4th 03 06:42 PM

Yep. Its Crap. Does it matter where i'm from? If i lived in the US, your
post would STILL have been labeled as crap, because its not some 'isnt a
america great' ng. Stupid? I think not. Oh and i'm far from little as well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too. Go back into that dark little
hole of yours and stop bothering us with your nonsensical babblings...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:40 pm:

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just

for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah






Kai Robinson July 4th 03 06:57 PM

Haha - well thats america for you - plenty of dumbasses :P

No offence to anyone normal btw, just to drunken morons :D

Kai


in article , Doc at
wrote on 7/4/03 8:06 pm:

I love July 4th, even though I'm not from the states.

It's always comical to hear about some dumbass blowing half his body parts
off with fireworks while he was in a drunken stupor.

:
: doc
:
:

:
"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Yep. Its Crap. Does it matter where i'm from? If i lived in the US, your
post would STILL have been labeled as crap, because its not some 'isnt a
america great' ng. Stupid? I think not. Oh and i'm far from little as

well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too. Go back into that dark

little
hole of yours and stop bothering us with your nonsensical babblings...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:40 pm:

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just
for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont
post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah








HamMan July 4th 03 07:44 PM

WARNING: May contain patriotic garbage



TheSingingCat July 4th 03 08:21 PM


"SST" wrote in message
t...
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,


*snip bunch of useless stuff*

That does a lot of good in a videocard NG. Use your melon before you post
all that garbage.



SST July 4th 03 08:39 PM

Ooo, I'm shaking! LOL

Hey, **** for brains who cares if your big, fat and stupid. Too bad your
brains aren't in proportion to your body.


Go **** yourself, asshole!



"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Yep. Its Crap. Does it matter where i'm from? If i lived in the US, your
post would STILL have been labeled as crap, because its not some 'isnt a
america great' ng. Stupid? I think not. Oh and i'm far from little as

well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too. Go back into that dark

little
hole of yours and stop bothering us with your nonsensical babblings...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:40 pm:

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just

for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah







SST July 4th 03 08:42 PM

its also about intel, amd and ati chips. read.


"LockheartXP" wrote in message
e...
Oh **** off, don't insult the French, Lafayette saved your ass a long time
ago.

This is a newgroup about Nvidia boards, so what in world does it have to

do
with what you posted. Bandwith waster.


"SST" a écrit dans le message de
t...
Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum

just
for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah








SST July 4th 03 08:45 PM

I did.

I love to see all the non-Americans come out in protest of a little
patriotism. its funny as hell and sad at the same time.

Keep it coming!



"TheSingingCat" wrote in message
...

"SST" wrote in message
t...
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,


*snip bunch of useless stuff*

That does a lot of good in a videocard NG. Use your melon before you post
all that garbage.





Wookie July 4th 03 09:10 PM

And if not for the freedom and ingenuity of the Americans .. there would be
no precious internet or your frickin' NG's or probably the computer you're
sitting at.
God Bless America

"SST" wrote in message
t...
I did.

I love to see all the non-Americans come out in protest of a little
patriotism. its funny as hell and sad at the same time.

Keep it coming!



"TheSingingCat" wrote in message
...

"SST" wrote in message
t...
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,


*snip bunch of useless stuff*

That does a lot of good in a videocard NG. Use your melon before you

post
all that garbage.







SST July 4th 03 09:13 PM

BTW: I want to know where your from because I'd like to decide if you
represent your nation or if you're just commie, pink'o moron. I can then
make an honest decision to not travel your nation and urge my congressman
and senators to avoid supporting such nations.

I avoid anything French made or owned and unfortunately I drive a German car
but next time it will most likely be some American owned or dominated
manufacturer.

I do this every year and it always draws the maggots to the surface.

Smile for the camera!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Yep. Its Crap. Does it matter where i'm from? If i lived in the US, your
post would STILL have been labeled as crap, because its not some 'isnt a
america great' ng. Stupid? I think not. Oh and i'm far from little as

well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too. Go back into that dark

little
hole of yours and stop bothering us with your nonsensical babblings...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:40 pm:

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just

for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah







Thor July 4th 03 09:13 PM

Isn't it amazing how many people, from so many countries, hate "America" and
the "american way"

and no, don't try and turn it around claiming it is jealousy.
because it is NOT.

I wouldn't be caught living in a country without health care, that forces
its agenda on others, only looks out for its own interests (screw what is
right or wrong), has one of the lowest literacy rates in the developed
world, etc.

Granted there are some intelligent Americans, but most of them keep quiet,
because they are embarrassed about the way their country acts.

Unfortunately the majority are almost as intelligent and well rounded as a
Jerry Springer guest.





Thor July 4th 03 09:20 PM

you should write to your congressman and request they propose a bill to
return the Statue of Liberty, that great American symbol....

I think it would look good back in France.

or don't you know your history?



Banjo Dolt July 4th 03 09:27 PM

In article ,
says...
Isn't it amazing how many people, from so many countries, hate "America" and
the "american way"
Unfortunately the majority are almost as intelligent and well rounded as a
Jerry Springer guest.



I am continually amazed that the world seems to judge American on it's
multimedia, and the crap that comes out of Hollywood.


If I were to judge the United Kingdom on the English television I see
here in the states, I would conclude that the English were a bunch of
cross dressing idiots with no sense of humour.

Fortunately, I don't believe everything I see or hear on television.

The fact of the matter is, American has no more or less bigots, zealots,
morons, illiterates, fascists, etc. than any other country. We are
fallible humans, just like the rest of you. Before you sling mud at the
United States, have a look at your own bloody history.

Have a nice day,

Cary F.

SST July 4th 03 09:29 PM

Yes, I would. Is it a plagiarized version of ours? I hope so!


"LockheartXP" wrote in message
e...
Nothing to do with patriotism. This NG is international, so what if
everybody here starts posting useless historical info about their own
country?? Wanna read about the Czech constitution????


"SST" a écrit dans le message de
t...
I did.

I love to see all the non-Americans come out in protest of a little
patriotism. its funny as hell and sad at the same time.

Keep it coming!



"TheSingingCat" wrote in message
...

"SST" wrote in message
t...
IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

*snip bunch of useless stuff*

That does a lot of good in a videocard NG. Use your melon before you

post
all that garbage.









Tom Lake July 4th 03 09:37 PM

Nothing to do with patriotism. This NG is international, so what if
everybody here starts posting useless historical info about their own
country?? Wanna read about the Czech constitution????


Yes, I would! I'd like to learn about any country on its special day.

Tom Lake



SST July 4th 03 09:40 PM

Oh my god. Its amazing how so many people like you have absolutely no idea
what you talking about.

You are obviously more stupid then the red-necks from West Virginia if you
actually believe what you just said.

Very sad too hear such inaccurate nonsense.



"Thor" wrote in message
a...
Isn't it amazing how many people, from so many countries, hate "America"

and
the "american way"

and no, don't try and turn it around claiming it is jealousy.
because it is NOT.

I wouldn't be caught living in a country without health care, that forces
its agenda on others, only looks out for its own interests (screw what is
right or wrong), has one of the lowest literacy rates in the developed
world, etc.

Granted there are some intelligent Americans, but most of them keep quiet,
because they are embarrassed about the way their country acts.

Unfortunately the majority are almost as intelligent and well rounded as a
Jerry Springer guest.







SST July 4th 03 09:46 PM

Unfortunately I do. I live less then 50 miles from it and have seen it
10,000 times.

She has a big nose and hairy arm pits!

Come get her if you want.


"Thor" wrote in message
a...
you should write to your congressman and request they propose a bill to
return the Statue of Liberty, that great American symbol....

I think it would look good back in France.

or don't you know your history?





Dan July 4th 03 09:53 PM

Bingo it is assholes like you that cause all these other nations to hate
America.

"neopolaris" . wrote in message ...

There probably wouldn't even be an internet or computers if it weren't for
the United States. There probably wouldn't be a helluva lotta things.

If you dislike 'US" tough. We are making the world a better place-one
sandbox and rice paddy at a time.

PS: Yo fatass KAI. I have a temper too. Goes well with my formal Army
training. In short, shut your piehole.

neopolaris
ex-grunt
E-3-1





Paul Turnbull July 4th 03 09:59 PM

"SST" wrote in message
t...
I did.

I love to see all the non-Americans come out in protest of a little
patriotism. its funny as hell and sad at the same time.

Keep it coming!


Prat.

But if it means that you only contribute to these newsgroups once a year,
then that's fine.





Dave July 4th 03 10:22 PM


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Haha - well thats america for you - plenty of dumbasses :P


Please keep the stereotyping to a minimum...that is unless you would like us
Americans to typify France as a bunch of unwashed, pungent, elitist
snail-eating Socialists with poor drinking water, strange sexual
proclivities, sharper class distinctions, a history of arrogant aristocratic
inbreeding monarchy, and a far lower standard of living, due in no small
part of late to Chameleon Bonaparte's little oil deal with Saddam falling
thru...which clearly does not apply to everyone in France. The number of
dumbasses per capita is a GLOBAL demographic, spanning all social strata.
Factor in population growth and we can naturally see stupidity propagating
at a near-exponential rate...

Honi soit qui merde y pense...


No offence to anyone normal btw, just to drunken morons :D


Hey, I know Norm and Al. And no, they aren't living together. Only in France
;-) (and SF, Greenwich Village, Ogunquit, ME, and P-town which is south of
my position both literally and metaphorically). Normality is the idea of
consensus perpetuated by weak-minded, mediocre, insecure sheep who need to
feel like they're part of something larger than the limited scope of their
self-awareness. When you consider my above assertion, namely that most
people are indeed stupid (only the top 10% actually have any noteworthy
intellect, statistically speaking), then I guess it thus follows that
"normality" is pretty much dumb all over...and a little ugly on the side ;-)
Never mind SST. He's another "Nvidia Dude". He is an obsessive/compulsive,
shallow, insecure materialist with a melodramatic flair and a history of
cyclical abuse. I think his fat wife left him not too long ago as well. He
was told this would happen if he didn't take his meds and well, he didn't
take his meds and this happened. He's mostly ok while his dope supply lasts,
it's just been a little dry lately...


Kai


in article , Doc at
wrote on 7/4/03 8:06 pm:

I love July 4th, even though I'm not from the states.

It's always comical to hear about some dumbass blowing half his body

parts
off with fireworks while he was in a drunken stupor.

:
: doc
:
:

:
"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Yep. Its Crap. Does it matter where i'm from? If i lived in the US,

your
post would STILL have been labeled as crap, because its not some 'isnt

a
america great' ng. Stupid? I think not. Oh and i'm far from little as

well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too. Go back into that dark

little
hole of yours and stop bothering us with your nonsensical babblings...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:40 pm:

Oh, its crap?

I see. Where are you from, Kai?


You stupid little person, you must be from France!


"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum

just
for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please

dont
post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


in article , SST at
wrote on 7/4/03 5:28 pm:

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776....blah.....blah....blah










Martin Eriksson July 4th 03 10:24 PM

Well just wait until I post the Swedish "constitution" on our national day.
I guess "your" constitution is a plagialized version of ours...

*PLONK*

/M



TheSingingCat July 4th 03 10:27 PM


"Wookie" wrote in message
news:3blNa.104022$R73.11958@sccrnsc04...
And if not for the freedom and ingenuity of the Americans .. there would

be
no precious internet or your frickin' NG's or probably the computer you're
sitting at.
God Bless America


Patriotism is great, it is what makes a nation strong -- no question about
it. However, I'm sure there are plenty of newsgroups where that would be
appropriate. A huge post in a videocard NG isn't appropriate.

As for the ingenuity and freedom of Americans, that was never in dispute nor
question so I'm uncertain why you even bring that up. As for the computer
I'm sitting at, it's a Toshiba made in Japan, I'm sure they are quite
ingenious and inventive as well. I'd have great difficulty in believing
that without US contributions to the computing world we would not have
computers.




Martin Eriksson July 4th 03 10:28 PM

"Kai Robinson" wrote in message
...
Exactly what is the point of posting this in here? Is this a forum just

for
yanks? Is this forum dealing with the US specifically? No. Please dont

post
this crap in here - there are other NG's for that.

Happy whatever it is day though...


Wow... I mean... not even csipgf-s has yet posted any 4th of july
messages... must mean that this (original) message is just trolling.

/M



Frode July 4th 03 10:28 PM

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Dave wrote:
Haha - well thats america for you - plenty of dumbasses :P

Please keep the stereotyping to a minimum...that is unless you would like
us Americans to typify France as a bunch of unwashed,


That's not typifying, it's a fact. France has the lowest consumption of
hygiene products in europe as well as the highest consumption of perfume.


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Frode

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Daemon Rose July 4th 03 10:49 PM

Oh and i'm far from little as well.
6foot4 with a ****ing great temper. Heavy Too.


Good....then go eat another ****ing pound of escargot or something.

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Daemon Rose



Daemon Rose July 4th 03 10:56 PM

And if not for the freedom and ingenuity of the Americans .. there would
be
no precious internet or your frickin' NG's or probably the computer you're
sitting at.


Yeah, just where do these people get off talking about Americans like that
anyway? Don't they know Al Gore invented the Internet?

--
Daemon Rose



Daemon Rose July 4th 03 11:23 PM

Isn't it amazing how many people, from so many countries, hate "America"
and
the "american way"


Even more amazing is that many of these same countries have no problem
accepting millions of U.S. dollars in foreign aid and will obviously expect
us to deal with the next dictator like Hitler or Hussein when they start
getting carried away and invade other countries.

Unfortunately the majority are almost as intelligent and well rounded as a
Jerry Springer guest.


So you believe everthing you see on T.V.? Well that explains everything!

--
Daemon Rose




OldfartJC July 4th 03 11:34 PM

I didn't realize you Canadians in Alberta hated us that much. My friends in
Edmonton always like to come to the U.S. to buy stuff at much cheaper prices
than they can in Canada. Must be all your liberal laws that causes
everything to be so expensive or maybe it's your great healthcare system
which probably taxes you to death, which means you wouldn't need healthcare
for very long.

"Dan" wrote in message
a...
Bingo it is assholes like you that cause all these other nations to hate
America.

"neopolaris" . wrote in message

...

There probably wouldn't even be an internet or computers if it weren't

for
the United States. There probably wouldn't be a helluva lotta things.

If you dislike 'US" tough. We are making the world a better place-one
sandbox and rice paddy at a time.

PS: Yo fatass KAI. I have a temper too. Goes well with my formal Army
training. In short, shut your piehole.

neopolaris
ex-grunt
E-3-1







Thor July 5th 03 12:12 AM

I'm not quite sure where you think I am from..

but..

I'll give you a hint.

I live in a country that doesn't start wars, altho the last war we fought
on our turf we won. and kicked the ass of the country we were fighting.. In
fact we burnt down their capitol city and government buildings.. I think it
was called the white house!




Steve Trussing July 5th 03 12:14 AM

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TheSingingCat wrote:

"Wookie" wrote in message
news:3blNa.104022$R73.11958@sccrnsc04...
And if not for the freedom and ingenuity of the Americans .. there
would be no precious internet or your frickin' NG's or probably the
computer you're sitting at.


As for the ingenuity and freedom of Americans, that was never in
dispute nor question so I'm uncertain why you even bring that up. As
for the computer I'm sitting at, it's a Toshiba made in Japan, I'm
sure they are quite ingenious and inventive as well.


There is a great difference between taking the ball and running with it,
and inventing the ball and the field you use it on in the first place.

I'd have great
difficulty in believing that without US contributions to the
computing world we would not have computers.


Don't kid yourself:

** World's first operational, general-purpose, electronic computer:
ENIAC (Electrical Numerical Integrator And Calculator, U.S. Patent
#3,120,606), University of Pennsylvania, USA, 1946

** First-ever high-level computer programming language: FORTRAN, USA,
1954 (released in 1957)

** Invention of the transistor, Bell Telephone Laboratories, USA, 1956

** Invention of Integrated Circuit (IC, U.S. Patents #3,138,743 and
#2,981,877), Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce, USA, 1958-59

** First-ever computer game: Spacewar, MIT, USA, 1962

** Invention of portable calculator, Jack Kilby, USA, 1967

** Foundation of the Internet: ARPAnet, UCLA and Stanford, USA, 1969

** First DRAM chip: Intel 1103, USA, 1970

** World's first single-chip microprocessor: Intel 4004 (U.S. Patent
#3,821,715), USA, 1971

** First "memory disk" (the floppy), IBM, USA, 1971
(Sony did later develop the 3 1/2" floppy. Woohoo! Thanks for
finally taking the ball and running with it!)

** Invention of Ethernet, Robert Metcalfe (Xerox), USA, 1973

** First-ever advertised personal computer (QST magazine): Scelbi
(SCientific, ELectronic and BIological), Milford, Connecticut, USA, 1974

** First-ever minicomputer kit (Popular Electronics magazine): Altair,
Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA, 1975

** The first IBM-based portable computer: IBM 5100, USA, 1975

** The first Apple: Apple I, USA, 1976

** First small-computer modem, Dennis Hayes, USA, 1977

** First IBM PC operating system, MS-DOS (adapted from QDOS), USA, 1981

** First-ever GUI environment for the PC: VisiOn, VisiCorp, USA, 1982

** The software that provided a platform to propel PCs into millions of
homes: Microsoft Windows, USA, 1985
(This is where Microsoft bashers pretend that the anti-competitive
business practices of Microsoft take away from their contributions to
the small computer platform.)

** Still the world's #1 desktop microprocessor maker: Intel, Santa
Clara, CA, USA

** Still the world's #2 desktop microprocessor maker: AMD, Sunnyvale,
CA, USA

And this is leaving out a HELL of a lot of stuff I just didn't feel like
putting down here.

sarcasm up the ass
Yeah, you're right; that's not significant. Take away the world's first
computer, first high-level programming language, the transistor, the IC,
DRAM, single-chip microprocessors, the calculator, computer games,
modems, Ethernet, personal computers, GUI operating systems, Intel, AMD,
and the Internet, and we'd still be where we are today. Oh sure. "More
crack here, please!"
/sarcasm up the ass

This isn't intended to decry contributions from other countries; it's
giving credit where it's due. Japanese computer firms made great
contributions later on, and the vacuum tube was developed in England.
Not to mention that none of the aforementioned technology occurred in a
vacuum (no pun intended).

Let's read that again, shall we? I said: This isn't saying "Other
countries did nothing", it's saying "The USA did A LOT".

--
Indeed I am.
Well, you're right about that.
Because it runs counter to the way we read!
Why do you hate top posting so much?



yugsdrawkcab July 5th 03 12:17 AM

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OldfartJC wrote:

I didn't realize you Canadians in Alberta hated us that much. My friends in
Edmonton always like to come to the U.S. to buy stuff at much cheaper prices
than they can in Canada. Must be all your liberal laws that causes
everything to be so expensive or maybe it's your great healthcare system
which probably taxes you to death, which means you wouldn't need healthcare
for very long.


I can't speak for all Canadians, but I can say that personally I don't
hate Americans.. I laugh at them. The education system is weak simply to
make the country a group of chest beating lemmings that feel they have
the right to dictate a way of life to anyone they please.



Steve Trussing July 5th 03 12:21 AM

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Thor wrote:

Isn't it amazing how many people, from so many countries, hate
"America" and the "american way"

and no, don't try and turn it around claiming it is jealousy.
because it is NOT.

I wouldn't be caught living in a country without health care, that
forces its agenda on others, only looks out for its own interests
(screw what is right or wrong), has one of the lowest literacy rates
in the developed world, etc.

Granted there are some intelligent Americans, but most of them keep
quiet, because they are embarrassed about the way their country acts.

Unfortunately the majority are almost as intelligent and well rounded
as a Jerry Springer guest.


So, if you were born an American, you'd run off to some foreign land as
a child? Or you'd wait until you were older, and abandon your family,
and everything else you ever knew?

America doesn't have health care? Huh? I could have sworn I drove past
several hospitals the other day. And when my wife delivered my daughter
8 months ago, I could have sworn that was a doctor that delivered her.
Hmmm, funny. Oh--you mean we don't have SOCIALIZED health care! Oh,
right. And we all know how wonderful government-sponsered health care
is. Now, you tell me what country has the BEST health care technology
in the world. Take all the time you need.

To say that "the majority" of Americans are idiots is just plain stupid.
I think you'd have to be pretty irrational to make such a sweeping
statement about 150,000,000 people you haven't met (i.e. 50% of
Americans).

--
Indeed I am.
Well, you're right about that.
Because it runs counter to the way we read!
Why do you hate top posting so much?



Steve Trussing July 5th 03 12:24 AM

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So, where was the first computer and first personal computer invented,
and where did the Internet originate?

The United States of America.

Andy Cunningham wrote:

Neither of those were invented by the USA. Though french fries were.

"neopolaris" . wrote in message
...

There probably wouldn't even be an internet or computers if it
weren't for the United States. There probably wouldn't be a helluva
lotta things.

If you dislike 'US" tough. We are making the world a better
place-one sandbox and rice paddy at a time.

PS: Yo fatass KAI. I have a temper too. Goes well with my formal
Army training. In short, shut your piehole.

neopolaris
ex-grunt
E-3-1




--
Indeed I am.
Well, you're right about that.
Because it runs counter to the way we read!
Why do you hate top posting so much?



Steve Trussing July 5th 03 12:25 AM

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Thor wrote:

I'm not quite sure where you think I am from..

but..

I'll give you a hint.

I live in a country that doesn't start wars


Little ****ants don't start fights in the schoolyard, either.

--
Indeed I am.
Well, you're right about that.
Because it runs counter to the way we read!
Why do you hate top posting so much?



Dave July 5th 03 12:41 AM


"Frode" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
Haha - well thats america for you - plenty of dumbasses :P

Please keep the stereotyping to a minimum...that is unless you would

like
us Americans to typify France as a bunch of unwashed,


That's not typifying, it's a fact. France has the lowest consumption of
hygiene products in europe as well as the highest consumption of perfume.



Merde! Zat izz vhy zee Franch weemen zey smell so..uhh fonny down zere? Zat
iss vhy "zee eetch needs to be scratched" so often? I guess zis is vhy
France ees zee #1 exporter of zee fragrances d'amour? "Nos culottes salies
sont l'épitomé de l'haute couture!" aww, I can't be hittin' below the belt!
I apologize in advance for my crudity! Mon Dieu, quel cochon je suis! Pomme
de rue!

I keep flashing back to Mel Brooks "History Of The World Part 1": "You look
like zee ****-boy!..." or some MPTHG:


http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sou...l.wav/myob.wav

http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sou...ff/french.aiff

http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sou...v/kniggits.wav ...

.... http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Sou....wav/taunt.wav



aj July 5th 03 01:07 AM

Granted there are some intelligent Americans

Where ?????



aj July 5th 03 01:13 AM

I'm still waiting to hear from those
weapons of mass destruction btw.....


There are !!!
In the USA !!!




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