AMD-ATI R600 set to unleash bandwidth HELL-destruction against Nvidia's 8800 ~ Dave Orton hints at 512-bit bus
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Dave Orton promises R600 to take no prisoners and feature "new levels" of bandwidth 15-Dec-2006, 01:50.16 Reporter : geo Speaking at yesterday's AMD Financial Analysts Day, Executive Vice President of Visual and Media Businesses, Dave Orton, appeared to throw down the performance gauntlet in favor of AMD's upcoming R600 GPU. Having had over a month to study NVIDIA's G80, Orton did not seem the least bit intimidated. In a slide entitled "R600: Why we lead in graphics", Orton promised that even if the name of the company had changed, that the commitment to GPU performance leadership had not. He promised a "take no prisoners" approach to performance leadership for AMD's new GPU. More interestingly, in his verbal remarks Orton reported (at roughly the 1:22:30 mark of the webcast) that one of R600's key advantages would be "new levels of memory bandwidth to the graphics subsystem, and bandwidth is critical to graphics performance." As all graphics geeks know, AMD pioneered the move to GDDR4 memory with the Radeon X1950 XTX, which gave them a temporary advantage in bandwidth. However, in the period since NVIDIA has released the 384-bit GeForce 8800 GTX, whose memory bandwidth crushes the X1950 XTX by 86.4GB/s to 64.0GB/s. It is impossible that AMD could regain a significant enough advantage in bandwidth to be cited by Orton as a major competitive advantage without following NVIDIA north of the 256-bit bus that has been a mainstay of the ATI/AMD high-end products since 2002's Radeon 9700 Pro. As such, Beyond3D now believes that the persistent rumours that R600 will feature a 512-bit bus to graphics memory are most likely true, and at any rate believes that R600 must feature an external bus greater than 256-bit in order to back up the smack AMD's Executive Vice President laid down. In other tidbits, Orton also vowed to be first to the 65nm technology process, but did not disclose which product he had in mind for the honor, nor even product type, GPU or chipset. Our graphics-oriented notes (and a few selected slides) on the rest of the conference are included inside, if you dare to take the red pill. |
AMD-ATI R600 set to unleash bandwidth HELL-destruction against Nvidia's 8800 ~ Dave Orton hints at 512-bit bus
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oups.com... http://beyond3d.com/#news36695]http:...com/#news36695 Dave Orton promises R600 to take no prisoners and feature "new levels" of bandwidth 15-Dec-2006, 01:50.16 Reporter : geo Speaking at yesterday's AMD Financial Analysts Day, Executive Vice President of Visual and Media Businesses, Dave Orton, appeared to throw down the performance gauntlet in favor of AMD's upcoming R600 GPU. Having had over a month to study NVIDIA's G80, Orton did not seem the least bit intimidated. In a slide entitled "R600: Why we lead in graphics", Orton promised that even if the name of the company had changed, that the commitment to GPU performance leadership had not. He promised a "take no prisoners" approach to performance leadership for AMD's new GPU. More interestingly, in his verbal remarks Orton reported (at roughly the 1:22:30 mark of the webcast) that one of R600's key advantages would be "new levels of memory bandwidth to the graphics subsystem, and bandwidth is critical to graphics performance." As all graphics geeks know, AMD pioneered the move to GDDR4 memory with the Radeon X1950 XTX, which gave them a temporary advantage in bandwidth. However, in the period since NVIDIA has released the 384-bit GeForce 8800 GTX, whose memory bandwidth crushes the X1950 XTX by 86.4GB/s to 64.0GB/s. It is impossible that AMD could regain a significant enough advantage in bandwidth to be cited by Orton as a major competitive advantage without following NVIDIA north of the 256-bit bus that has been a mainstay of the ATI/AMD high-end products since 2002's Radeon 9700 Pro. As such, Beyond3D now believes that the persistent rumours that R600 will feature a 512-bit bus to graphics memory are most likely true, and at any rate believes that R600 must feature an external bus greater than 256-bit in order to back up the smack AMD's Executive Vice President laid down. In other tidbits, Orton also vowed to be first to the 65nm technology process, but did not disclose which product he had in mind for the honor, nor even product type, GPU or chipset. Our graphics-oriented notes (and a few selected slides) on the rest of the conference are included inside, if you dare to take the red pill. Excellent news. So, a true 512-bit internal/external memory bus has all but been officially confirmed. February is going to be a very interesting time. I wonder what NVidia will have at R600 launch to respond to ATi's new monster? Certainly an 8800 GTX refresh won't be enough. We'll see. Tony |
AMD-ATI R600 set to unleash bandwidth HELL-destruction against Nvidia's 8800 ~ Dave Orton hints at 512-bit bus
Tony DiMarzio wrote: "AirRaid Mach 2.5" wrote in message oups.com... http://beyond3d.com/#news36695]http:...com/#news36695 Dave Orton promises R600 to take no prisoners and feature "new levels" of bandwidth 15-Dec-2006, 01:50.16 Reporter : geo Speaking at yesterday's AMD Financial Analysts Day, Executive Vice President of Visual and Media Businesses, Dave Orton, appeared to throw down the performance gauntlet in favor of AMD's upcoming R600 GPU. Having had over a month to study NVIDIA's G80, Orton did not seem the least bit intimidated. In a slide entitled "R600: Why we lead in graphics", Orton promised that even if the name of the company had changed, that the commitment to GPU performance leadership had not. He promised a "take no prisoners" approach to performance leadership for AMD's new GPU. More interestingly, in his verbal remarks Orton reported (at roughly the 1:22:30 mark of the webcast) that one of R600's key advantages would be "new levels of memory bandwidth to the graphics subsystem, and bandwidth is critical to graphics performance." As all graphics geeks know, AMD pioneered the move to GDDR4 memory with the Radeon X1950 XTX, which gave them a temporary advantage in bandwidth. However, in the period since NVIDIA has released the 384-bit GeForce 8800 GTX, whose memory bandwidth crushes the X1950 XTX by 86.4GB/s to 64.0GB/s. It is impossible that AMD could regain a significant enough advantage in bandwidth to be cited by Orton as a major competitive advantage without following NVIDIA north of the 256-bit bus that has been a mainstay of the ATI/AMD high-end products since 2002's Radeon 9700 Pro. As such, Beyond3D now believes that the persistent rumours that R600 will feature a 512-bit bus to graphics memory are most likely true, and at any rate believes that R600 must feature an external bus greater than 256-bit in order to back up the smack AMD's Executive Vice President laid down. In other tidbits, Orton also vowed to be first to the 65nm technology process, but did not disclose which product he had in mind for the honor, nor even product type, GPU or chipset. Our graphics-oriented notes (and a few selected slides) on the rest of the conference are included inside, if you dare to take the red pill. Excellent news. So, a true 512-bit internal/external memory bus has all but been officially confirmed. February is going to be a very interesting time. I wonder what NVidia will have at R600 launch to respond to ATi's new monster? Certainly an 8800 GTX refresh won't be enough. We'll see. Tony Actually the R520 / X1800 and R580 / X1900 have 256-bit external bus and a 512-bit internal ring bus. So it is thought that the R600 will have a 1024-bit internal ring bus to match the 512-bit external bus :) Nvidia will not have a true refresh of G80 / GF 8800 anywhere near the launch of R600. there's big difference between a speed-bumped version of a card with faster core/ memory clockspeeds, than an actual refresh. the G70 / 7800 GTX and everything beyond that (before the G80) was a refresh of the NV40 / 6800. anyway, I think ATI/AMD has got it in the back for Windows Vista launch and the first generation of DX10 cards. |
AMD-ATI R600 set to unleash bandwidth HELL-destruction against Nvidia's 8800 ~ Dave Orton hints at 512-bit bus
On 15 Dec 2006 01:45:55 -0800, "AirRaid Mach 2.5"
wrote: http://beyond3d.com/#news36695]http:...com/#news36695 Dave Orton promises R600 to take no prisoners and feature "new levels" of bandwidth How much more techno-dweeb BS are you going to continue to propagate on these newsgroups? We know that you are an ATi marketing mouthpiece. Why not just shut up until cards with the R600 are released, the technically-expert reviews are made comparing the 8800 variants with the R600 variants and then let us judge for ourselves? I recommend Anandtech for reviews with in-depth technical detail and accuracy and no vendor biases. For me, I have zero intention of purchasing any DX10-capable cards until Vista is stable, the drivers are stable and the combination is as efficient and bug-free as Win XP in running both current and legacy games. Which puts my purchasing decision around Fall 2007; by which time the R600 will be readily available (hopefully...knowing ATi delivery realities vs promises) and the 8800-series with be in their second-generation on a smaller process, most likely 65nm. I suggest that those itching to have the latest and greatest video hardware take something for the itch and hold off as long as me and certainly for a month or two after Vista is retail released; better for both the (frustration) ulcers and the wallet. John Lewis |
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