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tazman February 18th 06 02:56 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 
I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the CPU.
and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz





General Schvantzkoph February 18th 06 03:22 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:56:43 +0800, tazman wrote:

I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the CPU.
and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz


Those temperatures are way to high. I have a 4400+, with both cores
running at 100% the highest I've seen it go it 40C. Are you sure that your
case fans aren't fighting each other? As a quick check unplug one fan and
see what happens to your temperatures.



Lee Waun February 18th 06 06:46 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 
"tazman" wrote in message
...
I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the
front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.



You must have a big problem. I have a brand new x2 3800+ dual core and using
cool and quiet I am running at 20C right now. I have never got this core to
get above 37C. It replaced a clawhammer 3500+ that would idle at 29C and go
up to 51C at full load. This dual core runs so cool I question wether I even
need cool and quiet running.


The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the
CPU. and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz







NoNoBadDog! February 18th 06 09:48 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 

"tazman" wrote in message
...
I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the
front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the
CPU. and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz





Have you loaded the processor driver and enabled Cool n' Quiet, both under
the BIOS and under windows?

Sounds like you have not enabled Cool n' Quiet, and the processor is running
at full voltage and frequency all the time.

My dual core, with the standard CPU cooler, rarely goes above 40 degrees. I
have only two 120mm fans, one intake and one output. I am running 4 HDD and
two opticals.

Bobby



Wes Newell February 19th 06 02:05 AM

Temp of Dual core system
 
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 21:56:43 +0800, tazman wrote:

I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

There's a problem, but probably with your temp sensors, as the cpu would
have shut itself down long before reaching 79C I think. Either that are
you don't have the cpu cooler on correct.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the
CPU. and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.

Plenty good enough.

Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.


most commercial water coolers under $200 won't work much better than air.
Forget it. You don't need water cooling. Just find an fix the problem. If
the cpu cooler is mounted correctly, I'd suggest a bios update. Some
bioses reported wrong temps. Or if you're using a program to read the
temps, it could be configured for the wrong sensors.

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VanShania February 19th 06 02:41 AM

Temp of Dual core system
 
Maybe your fan is on backwards.

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"tazman" wrote in message
...
I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the

front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the

CPU.
and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz







tazman February 19th 06 12:50 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 


most commercial water coolers under $200 won't work much better than air.
Forget it. You don't need water cooling. Just find an fix the problem. If
the cpu cooler is mounted correctly, I'd suggest a bios update.


Done . got the lattest bios


Some
bioses reported wrong temps. Or if you're using a program to read the
temps, it could be configured for the wrong sensors.

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Bios is reporting the same as ASUS probe..

did a little test...

Turned the computer off and let is sit for 3 hours to cool down...

On start up I went into bios and checked the temps, and the bios showed that
the cpu temp was sitting at 36c. the ambient temp was 23c, so I think the
bios is reading the temp wrong..




Doug Lynn February 19th 06 03:23 PM

Temp of Dual core system
 
Hi, you said at idle your case temperature is 39C thats way too high, try
cooling the case more, just make sure you have more exhaust fans than intake
or equal CPM in and out. Never more intake CFM than exhaust. Higher case
temps or amibient temps push your cpu temp that much higher.

doug
www.lynncomp.com

"tazman" wrote in message
...
I have recently built the following computer :

AMD dual core 64 bit 4200+
ASUS 8AN-SLI mobo
2 gig Hynix DDR ram
256Meg 6600GT Pcie vid card
250Gig SATA-II Maxtor HD (16meg buffer)
Thermaltake 450 W power supply

this sits in a Full tower case with a fan sucking cool air in at the
front.
and a second fan at the back blowing warm air out of the case.

Now when at idle the CPU temp sits around 52c and the mobo chipset around
39c

When fully loaded, with both cores reporting 100% loading (running 2 seti
programs at once) the CPU temp shoots right up to around 79c

Are these typical temps for the dual core? or is there a problem.

The CPU is using the standard AMD heat sink and fan that came with the
CPU. and was installed using the stock thermal pad that came with it.


Has anyone had any experiance with water cooling.. Have had a look at a
Thermaltake unit and may just invest in one.



Cheers and Beers

Taz








tazman February 20th 06 03:24 AM

Temp of Dual core system
 

"Bill" wrote in message
...
tazman wrote:

Bios is reporting the same as ASUS probe..

did a little test...

Turned the computer off and let is sit for 3 hours to cool down...

On start up I went into bios and checked the temps, and the bios showed
that
the cpu temp was sitting at 36c. the ambient temp was 23c, so I think the
bios is reading the temp wrong..


Do you mean you think it WAS reading it wrong and now it's reading
properly?

That's a typical CPU temp for a 64x2. My x2 3800+ idled at about the
same temp with the stock cooler.

What do you get now when the CPU is 100% loaded?


Ok what I should have said that it was reading 36c as soon as I turned it
on, but quickly rose to 52c in a matter of minutes and then sat there..

100% loaded it still shows 75c +.

system is not over clocked and cool and quiet is enabled...




Andrew MacPherson February 20th 06 08:19 AM

Temp of Dual core system
 
(tazman) wrote:

100% loaded it still shows 75c +.


I'd be inclined to open up the case and put my finger on the heatsink
(being careful with static etc., obviously). That seems far too high, and
your finger may give you an idea of whether that 75 is being reported
genuinely or not.

If it *is* genuine, then there's got to be something wrong with your
heatsink. Maybe there's a big gap in the thermal paste where a hot-spot
can develop?

Andrew McP

PS Disclaimer: if you burn your finger, develop a nasty wound, get
gangrene, and lose the arm, I'm not responsible, ok? ;-)



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