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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:47:22 +0000 (UTC)
Seahorse wrote: Following prompt first aid from the medic (John) managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On 23 Nov 2003 12:27:35 -0800: Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. thanks. 1. Don't cross post. Wrong. Cross post to all relevant newsgroups. That is the way USENET is intended to work and that way everybody sees the post, everybody sees the responses, and there is no duplication of effort. Have you ever answered taken the time to research a question for someone and then found after posting your response that there was a 500 message thread in response to the same post on a different newsgroup which you did not see before expending your own time because the OP failed to cross-post? If not, the first time it happens to you you'll become an advocate of appropriate cross-posting. What on Earth has led you to believe that one should not cross-post? 2. Xmas 04. Wrong again. You need it when you encounter an application that uses features not present in DirectX versions earlier than 9, you want to use those features, and you find that enabling them on a board without hardware acceleration of those features (thus forcing use of the software implementation that runs on the main CPU) causes an unacceptable performance penalty. That means that for some folks the answer is "never" while for others it's "yesterday", and for the rest it's somewhere in between. To the OP the answer is "spend the bucks for an upgrade when you encounter something that causes you to notice the lack". --------- Rgds Mike Remove XXX to reply Give me a Ping Vasily, 1 Ping only. - Capt Marko Ramius WWW.Dead-Fish.Com - Deep Sea Daddies... http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollect...s=the_Seahorse -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:20:58 +0000 (UTC)
Seahorse wrote: Following prompt first aid from the medic "J.Clarke" managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:29:56 -0500: 1. Don't cross post. Wrong. Cross post to all relevant newsgroups. That is the way USENET is intended to work and that way everybody sees the post, everybody sees the responses, and there is no duplication of effort. Bad nettiquette as you well know. What ever gave you that idea? It does cause duplication of effort. Nope. It _eliminates_ duplication of effort. Scattergun posting is pointless. Crossposting is not "scattergun posting". I believe you have crossposting confused with multiposting. 2. Xmas 04. Wrong again. You need it when you encounter an application that uses features not present in DirectX versions earlier than 9, you want to use those features, and you find that enabling them on a board without hardware acceleration of those features (thus forcing use of the software implementation that runs on the main CPU) causes an unacceptable performance penalty. That means that for some folks the answer is "never" while for others it's "yesterday", and for the rest it's somewhere in between. To the OP the answer is "spend the bucks for an upgrade when you encounter something that causes you to notice the lack". Considering the distinct lack of games that actually implement any DX9 features - 2 to date I believe, it would hardly seem worth the effort. If one of those games is important to you then it is worth the effort. Do not assume that your priorities are everyone's priorities. By the time they become common place your card will be one if not 2 generations out of date. The mystery features you refer to are more likely than not disabled rather than CPu rendered, Some are, some aren't. The vertex shaders are CPU rendered while the pixel shaders are disabled, for example. but like I said, its not likely that he has a game requiring it hence my realistic time estimate. How do you know what he has? Do you read minds? DX9 comparability is like AGP X8 on a box. Designed to shift units rather than provide anything useful today... --------- Rgds Mike Remove XXX to reply Fools learn from experience, I prefer to learn from others. - Otto Von Bismark WWW.Dead-Fish.Com - Deep Sea Daddies... http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollect...s=the_Seahorse -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 02:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
Seahorse wrote: Following prompt first aid from the medic "Tim Miser" managed to scrawl the following bloodstained message On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 23:45:17 GMT: 1. Don't cross post. Why shouldn't one cross post? Because it's rude. See below... http://www.netlingo.com/right.cfm?term=cross%20post And of course "netlingo.com" is authoritative. You might try http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html, which (a) is an official RFC and therefore authoritative, and (b) explains the circumstances under which crossposting is and is not appropriate. --------- Rgds Mike Remove XXX to reply Fools learn from experience, I prefer to learn from others. - Otto Von Bismark WWW.Dead-Fish.Com - Deep Sea Daddies... http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mycollect...s=the_Seahorse -- -- --John Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
When will I *need* a Directx 9 card?
Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any
fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. thanks. |
Of course you don't absolutely need one. Games will run just fine on your
current card, but you won't be able to see some of the fancy eye candy. Most of that stuff is way overhyped anyway, IMHO. "John" wrote in message om... Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. thanks. |
Upgrade 6 months after Doom III comes out.
"John" wrote in message om... Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. thanks. |
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1. Don't cross post.
Why shouldn't one cross post? |
"John" wrote in message
om... Anybody know when you'll absolutely need a Directx 9 card to have any fun with games? It seems that games like Halo and Max Payne 2 use Directx 9 features sparingly, and therefore, it's no big deal if I play them on my Directx 8.1 card (which is a GeForce 4 Ti 4200). Are we talking 3-4 months maybe? I'm just trying to get a handle on when to spend the bucks for an upgrade. thanks. The Geforce 3 and 4 are DirectX 8, not 8.1. I've been thinking about a video card upgrade, I guess the real answer is when your current card can't run the games you want the way you want. For me that might be Half Life 2, looking a bit less likely now that it will be Deus Ex 2. -- Derek |
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