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Lyle June 29th 03 02:54 AM

upgrade from a mx440
 
looking at upgradeing my Geforce4 mx440.
what i would like to know is how the Geforce fx line compares to the
geforce 4 line. looking at getting a PNY 5600 ultra, would like to get
a 5800, but want to stick with PNY brand.
how would the fx 5600ultra compare to the geforce 4 4600???

Ron Merts July 1st 03 07:41 AM

The FX 5200 is something like a MX440SE (64Mb, SDR memory), the FX 5200
Ultra is closer to a Ti4200 4X card, the 5600 (flipchip or v2.0 version) is
more like the 8X 4200 (A.K.A. 4280) or almost the 8X 4400 (A.K.A. 4800SE);
the 5800 is like an 8X 4600 (A.K.A. the 4800) while the 5900 is like
nothing in the GeForce 4 lineup.

Unless you are going to resolutions greater than 1600X1200 you can save
yourself $100 and stick with the 128Mb 5900. The 5900 Ultra comes with
256Mb and according to everything I have read only gets benefit of the extra
128Mb of RAM at resolutions higher than 1600X1200. You can find the 5900
for around $425 while the 5900 Ultra is somewhere around $500-$550 (all
prices USD). I have seen the 5200 for as low as $90 for 128Mb version (do
NOT get the 64Mb version as it only has a 64-bit datapath...I thought we
left 64-bit paths behind with the GeForce 2???); and the 5200 Ultra for
around $200. I have read lot of stuff on here slamming the 5200 series and
if you have a fast P4 (or probably a Barton core Athlon) they work VERY
well. If you are in the 1.6-2.0 (1600+ to 2200+) range I would recommend
the 5600 Ultra as it will not depend on the CPU to achieve fast frame-rates
like the 5200 will. I suppose the easy answer is 5200=entry level and
5600=mid-level which translates to performance as well. If you are into
complex 3D games, spend the extra money for the 5600 Ultra; although a 5200
Ultra on a Pentium 4 3.06 with 1Gb of Dual Channel PC2100 memory and Windows
XP does rock and roll quite nicely. It actually benchmarks within 2500
points (3DMark01) of a GeForce 5800 on the samel CPU, mobo, memory and OS.

Ron

P.S. Tornado Computers (www.tornadocomputers.com) has some good deals on
GeForce FX cards and offers free shipping.

"Lyle" wrote in message
...
looking at upgradeing my Geforce4 mx440.
what i would like to know is how the Geforce fx line compares to the
geforce 4 line. looking at getting a PNY 5600 ultra, would like to get
a 5800, but want to stick with PNY brand.
how would the fx 5600ultra compare to the geforce 4 4600???




Spooky Fodder July 5th 03 03:46 AM

Right on! Good info. Thx

"Ron Merts" wrote in message
...
The FX 5200 is something like a MX440SE (64Mb, SDR memory), the FX 5200
Ultra is closer to a Ti4200 4X card, the 5600 (flipchip or v2.0 version)

is
more like the 8X 4200 (A.K.A. 4280) or almost the 8X 4400 (A.K.A. 4800SE);
the 5800 is like an 8X 4600 (A.K.A. the 4800) while the 5900 is like
nothing in the GeForce 4 lineup.

Unless you are going to resolutions greater than 1600X1200 you can save
yourself $100 and stick with the 128Mb 5900. The 5900 Ultra comes with
256Mb and according to everything I have read only gets benefit of the

extra
128Mb of RAM at resolutions higher than 1600X1200. You can find the 5900
for around $425 while the 5900 Ultra is somewhere around $500-$550 (all
prices USD). I have seen the 5200 for as low as $90 for 128Mb version

(do
NOT get the 64Mb version as it only has a 64-bit datapath...I thought we
left 64-bit paths behind with the GeForce 2???); and the 5200 Ultra for
around $200. I have read lot of stuff on here slamming the 5200 series

and
if you have a fast P4 (or probably a Barton core Athlon) they work VERY
well. If you are in the 1.6-2.0 (1600+ to 2200+) range I would recommend
the 5600 Ultra as it will not depend on the CPU to achieve fast

frame-rates
like the 5200 will. I suppose the easy answer is 5200=entry level and
5600=mid-level which translates to performance as well. If you are into
complex 3D games, spend the extra money for the 5600 Ultra; although a

5200
Ultra on a Pentium 4 3.06 with 1Gb of Dual Channel PC2100 memory and

Windows
XP does rock and roll quite nicely. It actually benchmarks within 2500
points (3DMark01) of a GeForce 5800 on the samel CPU, mobo, memory and OS.

Ron

P.S. Tornado Computers (www.tornadocomputers.com) has some good deals on
GeForce FX cards and offers free shipping.

"Lyle" wrote in message
...
looking at upgradeing my Geforce4 mx440.
what i would like to know is how the Geforce fx line compares to the
geforce 4 line. looking at getting a PNY 5600 ultra, would like to get
a 5800, but want to stick with PNY brand.
how would the fx 5600ultra compare to the geforce 4 4600???







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