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Keith Lee January 11th 09 12:24 AM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
All:
I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would be the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.

Keith

DevilsPGD[_3_] January 11th 09 10:12 AM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
In message Keith Lee
was claimed to have wrote:

I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would be the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.


Personally, I'd grab nearly anything by Intel that is physically
compatible with your motherboard.

pokey man January 11th 09 07:46 PM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 

"Keith Lee" wrote in message
. ..
All:
I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would be

the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.

Keith


Any nic... do you have pci slot available? get a gigabit nic, so for future
expansion you will be set (t-10/100/1000). I use d-link my self.

Pokeyman



Paul January 11th 09 09:40 PM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
Keith Lee wrote:
All:
I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would be the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.

Keith


At one time, Ethernet devices were categorized according
to their performance. A high performance device was one
that could handle back-to-back packets with ease. For example,
early in my career, I worked on a product which only
had two buffers, and that would be considered a low
performance product. (Of course, the product documentation
doesn't say that :-) )

That was a long time ago (just after Ethernet was introduced),
and most chips today are fully featured. A typical good design
uses ring buffers and DMA, for both transmit and receive. Some
even have various kinds of offloading features, but I haven't
been keeping track of that stuff.

This is an example of a chip you can get on a $10 NIC
card. The document here claims, the receive side has
a ring buffer, while the transmit side uses fixed buffers.
And I think that causes a slight bit of grief for the
software people.

http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~cruse/cs326...mmersGuide.pdf

So as long as you avoid certain of the $10 NIC cards,
you'll be getting whatever performance your OS can
manage.

Occasionally, you'll run into an old chipset, that has some
problems with its PCI bus, but for DSL download speeds, I
wouldn't expect even the most broken PCI implementation
to limit your fun. Some of these PCI bus problems become more
evident, when you try to transfer files between two
PCs.

There is room on some OSes, for link tuning. For example,
as a joke, I installed Win98SE on my current Core2 system.
I did some download testing, and noted the usual crappy
performance. I found a package that claims to modify some
TCPIP settings in Win98, and after I used it, I was
able to download at 500KB/sec (full link rate), just
like in WinXP. So if your performance sucks, it isn't always
the hardware that has a problem - it can also be the
window size/delay product which is causing it. I'd
give you a link to the package, but it's on a disk
which is currently disconnected.

Paul

Keith Lee January 12th 09 01:40 PM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:46:40 -0500, pokey man wrote:

"Keith Lee" wrote in message
. ..
All:
I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would
be

the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.

Keith


Any nic... do you have pci slot available? get a gigabit nic, so for
future expansion you will be set (t-10/100/1000). I use d-link my self.

Pokeyman


PM:
Thanks!

Keith Lee


Keith Lee January 12th 09 01:40 PM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:40:31 -0500, Paul wrote:

Keith Lee wrote:
All:
I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would
be the best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.

Keith


At one time, Ethernet devices were categorized according to their
performance. A high performance device was one that could handle
back-to-back packets with ease. For example, early in my career, I
worked on a product which only had two buffers, and that would be
considered a low performance product. (Of course, the product
documentation doesn't say that :-) )

That was a long time ago (just after Ethernet was introduced), and most
chips today are fully featured. A typical good design uses ring buffers
and DMA, for both transmit and receive. Some even have various kinds of
offloading features, but I haven't been keeping track of that stuff.

This is an example of a chip you can get on a $10 NIC card. The document
here claims, the receive side has a ring buffer, while the transmit side
uses fixed buffers. And I think that causes a slight bit of grief for
the software people.

http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~cruse/cs326...mmersGuide.pdf

So as long as you avoid certain of the $10 NIC cards, you'll be getting
whatever performance your OS can manage.

Occasionally, you'll run into an old chipset, that has some problems
with its PCI bus, but for DSL download speeds, I wouldn't expect even
the most broken PCI implementation to limit your fun. Some of these PCI
bus problems become more evident, when you try to transfer files between
two PCs.

There is room on some OSes, for link tuning. For example, as a joke, I
installed Win98SE on my current Core2 system. I did some download
testing, and noted the usual crappy performance. I found a package that
claims to modify some TCPIP settings in Win98, and after I used it, I
was able to download at 500KB/sec (full link rate), just like in WinXP.
So if your performance sucks, it isn't always the hardware that has a
problem - it can also be the window size/delay product which is causing
it. I'd give you a link to the package, but it's on a disk which is
currently disconnected.

Paul


Paul:
Thanks!

Keith Lee

franz47 January 22nd 09 01:07 PM

Best Ethernet NIC with a Gigabyte?
 
"Keith Lee" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
. ..

I have an older Gigabyte motherboard with an AMD 1100 CPU. What would be the
best NIC to work with it? I
am hoping to get DSL soon. Thank you.


If it´s just for getting DSL work, you might throw in whatsoever, since very
probably even the speed of an antique 10 MBit/sec NIC will exceed your DLS
connection´s speed. So just to get started, you might pick a NIC from a
computer-junkyard. The NIC very probably will not be the bottleneck in your
"older" system. If you will need a faster NIC you will probably need a new
system, also. New motherboards have a Gigabit NIC on board nowadays. So I would
not spend much money on a faster extra card for your present system.
Regards
Franz47



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