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Scooter December 20th 03 10:05 PM

How to boost Aquamark score
 
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first benchmark I
have ever done and I find my score really low compared to others on the web
(almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points and my system is as follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.





Biz December 20th 03 10:36 PM

Overclock the heck out of your system or buy a faster system
"Scooter" wrote in message
...
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first benchmark

I
have ever done and I find my score really low compared to others on the

web
(almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points and my system is as

follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.







Dark Avenger December 21st 03 03:16 AM

"Scooter" wrote in message ...
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first benchmark I
have ever done and I find my score really low compared to others on the web
(almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points and my system is as follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.


Is it me or is your memory slow.... you know that if you have slow
memory your CPU probably is running on lower speeds then it can run.
I'm sure your AMD 2600 should be able to run at 166Mhz FSB... if you
just had the memory to support that.

Very probably it's your slow memory!

cowboyz December 21st 03 07:22 PM

Dark Avenger wrote:
"Scooter" wrote in message
...
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first
benchmark I have ever done and I find my score really low compared
to others on the web (almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points
and my system is as follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.


Is it me or is your memory slow.... you know that if you have slow
memory your CPU probably is running on lower speeds then it can run.
I'm sure your AMD 2600 should be able to run at 166Mhz FSB... if you
just had the memory to support that.

Very probably it's your slow memory!


What makes you think his memory is slow? I must be missing something your
not. His front side is at 333 so without any info on ram speed (which I
can't see above) one would assume his ram is at 333 or even 400 considering
he has a KT400 board sitting under it.



Scooter December 21st 03 09:19 PM

What makes you think his memory is slow? I must be missing something your
not. His front side is at 333 so without any info on ram speed (which I
can't see above) one would assume his ram is at 333 or even 400

considering
he has a KT400 board sitting under it.

My Memory is running at 333



Dark Avenger December 21st 03 10:09 PM

"cowboyz" wrote in message ...
Dark Avenger wrote:
"Scooter" wrote in message
...
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first
benchmark I have ever done and I find my score really low compared
to others on the web (almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points
and my system is as follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.


Is it me or is your memory slow.... you know that if you have slow
memory your CPU probably is running on lower speeds then it can run.
I'm sure your AMD 2600 should be able to run at 166Mhz FSB... if you
just had the memory to support that.

Very probably it's your slow memory!


What makes you think his memory is slow? I must be missing something your
not. His front side is at 333 so without any info on ram speed (which I
can't see above) one would assume his ram is at 333 or even 400 considering
he has a KT400 board sitting under it.


action: me reads again.....

Mmm, it indeed seems i'm wrong on that one. it does run at atleast
333Mhz. So that won't be a bottleneck!

Alpine December 22nd 03 05:25 AM

Your scores are about in line (maybe just a bit lower) than a friend that
has a 2600+ running a Ti 4400. Problem is likely due to the fact that
Aquamark 3d uses a lot of DX9 instructions. Since your TI 4200 doesn't have
them built in to hardware, it has to run them in a software mode which
severely slows down the results. He switched out his TI 4400 for a 5600
Ultra and saw his scores go from around 17k to 22K. On DX8 stuff thought he
performance was nearly identical. I think to get high marks in Aquamark you
will need a card that has DX9 instructions built in to the hardware such as
an Nvidia FX series card or ATI 9600 series and up.

As a side note, my 2400 + running at 200x10.5 scores 38800 with my 128 MB
FX5900. Memory isn't going to make a bit of difference. Initially I was
running 512 MB of PC2100 RAM and when I put in my 1G of PC3200 RAM (removing
the PC2100 RAM) my scores didn't change a bit. I attributed it do to
Aquamark loading all of the textures in to memory at the start of each test
and not benchmarking how long it took to load them since it isn't a memory
benchmark. Now on PCMark 2002 my memory score went from around 3700 up to
5200.

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"Scooter" wrote in message
...
For the first time I have run this benchmark tool. Its the first benchmark

I
have ever done and I find my score really low compared to others on the

web
(almost 9000 points). I am getting 15568points and my system is as

follows.

Computer
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1

Motherboard
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2100 MHz (6.25 x 336) 2600+
Motherboard Name MSI KT4V (MS-6712) (6 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8377 Apollo KT400
System Memory 1024 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type AMI (02/11/03)

Display
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 950p(T) (H2JK903118)
Same score using 52.16, 53.03drivers
all video settings at defaults
Direct X 9b

Multimedia
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Sound Card

Partitions
C: (FAT32) 150282 MB (136228 MB free)
G: (FAT32) 39987 MB (12857 MB free)
H: (FAT32) 36333 MB (4381 MB free)

I also notice My CPU doesnt score as much either.







Scooter December 22nd 03 10:22 PM


"Alpine" wrote in message
news:GfvFb.38713$BQ5.31614@fed1read03...
Your scores are about in line (maybe just a bit lower) than a friend that
has a 2600+ running a Ti 4400. Problem is likely due to the fact that
Aquamark 3d uses a lot of DX9 instructions. Since your TI 4200 doesn't

have
them built in to hardware, it has to run them in a software mode which
severely slows down the results. He switched out his TI 4400 for a 5600
Ultra and saw his scores go from around 17k to 22K. On DX8 stuff thought

he
performance was nearly identical. I think to get high marks in Aquamark

you
will need a card that has DX9 instructions built in to the hardware such

as
an Nvidia FX series card or ATI 9600 series and up.

As a side note, my 2400 + running at 200x10.5 scores 38800 with my 128 MB
FX5900. Memory isn't going to make a bit of difference. Initially I was
running 512 MB of PC2100 RAM and when I put in my 1G of PC3200 RAM

(removing
the PC2100 RAM) my scores didn't change a bit. I attributed it do to
Aquamark loading all of the textures in to memory at the start of each

test
and not benchmarking how long it took to load them since it isn't a memory
benchmark. Now on PCMark 2002 my memory score went from around 3700 up to
5200.

Thanks for that. I just wanted to make sure there wasnt any seriuos
problems. I am looking to get a new cheap card (prob 5900XT) just making
sure everything else is ok.




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