NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD
monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
Edward W. Thompson writes:
I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! -- % Randy Yates % "My Shangri-la has gone away, fading like %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % the Beatles on 'Hey Jude'" %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% % 'Shangri-La', *A New World Record*, ELO http://home.earthlink.net/~yatescr |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04:28 -0400, Randy Yates
wrote: Edward W. Thompson writes: I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! Actually I do live on an island. If you don't know the answer to a question why don't you keep quiet. Jerk! |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04:28 -0400, Randy Yates wrote: Edward W. Thompson writes: I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! Actually I do live on an island. If you don't know the answer to a question why don't you keep quiet. Jerk! Actually, I think he gave you the correct answer. |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
On May 24, 5:52 am, Edward W. Thompson
wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04:28 -0400, Randy Yates wrote: Edward W. Thompson writes: I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! Actually I do live on an island. If you don't know the answer to a question why don't you keep quiet. Jerk! Seriously, I think the card has probably just had it. Its an old one, and they dont last forever. You can get a much more powerful replacement for about £70. That's what I would do in your situation. |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
Edward W. Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04:28 -0400, Randy Yates wrote: Edward W. Thompson writes: I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! Actually I do live on an island. If you don't know the answer to a question why don't you keep quiet. Jerk! To eliminate software induced failure, I have a couple suggestions. 1) Use a spare disk. Disconnect the original disk. Install Windows on the spare. Download and install the same video driver you are currently using. Does the problem still exist ? If so, it is hardware. If the problem disappears, then you know it is some software problem in your real OS install. 2) Try an alternate OS. For example, I have both a Knoppix (knopper.net) and a Ubuntu "live" boot CD. Those distributions do not require any software to be installed on the hard drive. You can temporarily boot a computer, and have a Linux desktop, just by inserting a CD. The system's RAM is used as a temporary disk, to store files. Each of those distributions are a 700MB download, so that is only practical if you have ADSL or cable modem. And in this particular case, the video drivers they use, might not stress the card too thoroughly. There are drivers you can download, which use the acceleration features of the card, but then that takes more fiddling than the average user would be interested in. (It just about killed me :-) I spent hours looking at a 320x200 sized window on the screen, trying to type commands and fix stuff. What an adventure...) So while I recommend this route sometimes, for other broken hardware, it might not be ideal for bad video. The blanking out behavior, could be a "VPU recovery". That is where the driver has a disagreement with the hardware, and decides to reinitialize everything and try again. Rather than crash, it is supposed to be a better solution. But I don't know enough of the history of the intro of VPU recovery, and whether the concept still exists or not. It is possible they only do that on ATI cards. Maybe Nvidia calls it by a different name. http://www.foxpop.com/imre/2005/vpur...purecover.html For example, here a person mentions the symptoms where both ATI and Nvidia cards are used. The ATI blanks and puts up a VPU recovery dialog, the Nvidia just blanks, *implying* it is doing something similar. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s...9&st=0&p=53408 Paul |
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Problem
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:18:32 -0400, Paul wrote:
Edward W. Thompson wrote: On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:04:28 -0400, Randy Yates wrote: Edward W. Thompson writes: I have had this card for about 4 years and it drives a Sony LCD monitor. Recently, when changing 'pages/views' the screen will go black before regaining 'focus'. Even more recentl, after a time the screen will dispay light red cross hatch lines. I have run a 'stress' test on the card (proprietary software). Initiallythe card quickly failed under 'stability'. I removed the card and found the heat exchanger was very dirty which I cleaned. The card now completes the stability test but the problem of the screen blacking out between views and the red cross hatching persists. I think the card is at fault. I don't have a replacement card to test it against and am looking for advice on whether it is a card problem and any advice that might cure the problem. What, do you live on an island? Go to BestBuy/Circuit City/etc., buy a new card, and stick it in. Sheesh! Actually I do live on an island. If you don't know the answer to a question why don't you keep quiet. Jerk! To eliminate software induced failure, I have a couple suggestions. 1) Use a spare disk. Disconnect the original disk. Install Windows on the spare. Download and install the same video driver you are currently using. Does the problem still exist ? If so, it is hardware. If the problem disappears, then you know it is some software problem in your real OS install. 2) Try an alternate OS. For example, I have both a Knoppix (knopper.net) and a Ubuntu "live" boot CD. Those distributions do not require any software to be installed on the hard drive. You can temporarily boot a computer, and have a Linux desktop, just by inserting a CD. The system's RAM is used as a temporary disk, to store files. Each of those distributions are a 700MB download, so that is only practical if you have ADSL or cable modem. And in this particular case, the video drivers they use, might not stress the card too thoroughly. There are drivers you can download, which use the acceleration features of the card, but then that takes more fiddling than the average user would be interested in. (It just about killed me :-) I spent hours looking at a 320x200 sized window on the screen, trying to type commands and fix stuff. What an adventure...) So while I recommend this route sometimes, for other broken hardware, it might not be ideal for bad video. The blanking out behavior, could be a "VPU recovery". That is where the driver has a disagreement with the hardware, and decides to reinitialize everything and try again. Rather than crash, it is supposed to be a better solution. But I don't know enough of the history of the intro of VPU recovery, and whether the concept still exists or not. It is possible they only do that on ATI cards. Maybe Nvidia calls it by a different name. http://www.foxpop.com/imre/2005/vpur...purecover.html For example, here a person mentions the symptoms where both ATI and Nvidia cards are used. The ATI blanks and puts up a VPU recovery dialog, the Nvidia just blanks, *implying* it is doing something similar. http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s...9&st=0&p=53408 Paul Thank you for your advice |
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