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Alek July 5th 19 08:07 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.

John McGaw July 5th 19 08:31 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
On 7/5/2019 3:07 PM, Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.

Surprisingly, such a thing does exist. I had to look for a way to possibly
clone an M.2 drive in a single step to a larger one on a computer which has
only one M.2 slot. You can get an idea about such devices by searching
Amazon for "m.2 external enclosure". Not too expensive but you'd want to be
sure to find one supporting the latest USB standard.

Paul[_28_] July 5th 19 09:05 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


Check the keying and device type, before you buy.
This might be an adapter with the newest JMicron controller.

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Ext.../dp/B07FCBNSL8

That one expects PCI Express on the M.2 connector,
and runs at approximately 1GB/sec on USB3.1 Rev2.

If you plugged that enclosure into a USB2 port, it would
run at 35MB/sec.

Check the power consumption of the M.2 device. USB3 has
5V @ 900mA or 3.5W. USB2 has 5V @ 500mA or 2.5W. There are
a few M.2 that could be quite high on power, and exceed
those numbers. If an M.2 normally runs at 2.5GB/sec on
PCI Express x4, the slower operation of the enclosure,
reduces the read/write power required by the M.2. For example,
most of the power when on a USB2 port would be I/O power,
and keeping I/Os running at cable/bus rate and so on.

Soon, you'll need a primer on B and B+M and so on.
It's possible this would be best with a B.

https://www.amazon.ca/M-2-External-C.../dp/B076DCNZM3

Example of an article covering keying a bit.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-...M-key-socket-3

Paul

Alek July 5th 19 09:17 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
Paul wrote on 7/5/2019 4:05 PM:
Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


Check the keying and device type, before you buy.
This might be an adapter with the newest JMicron controller.

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Ext.../dp/B07FCBNSL8

That one expects PCI Express on the M.2 connector,
and runs at approximately 1GB/sec on USB3.1 Rev2.

If you plugged that enclosure into a USB2 port, it would
run at 35MB/sec.

Check the power consumption of the M.2 device. USB3 has
5V @ 900mA or 3.5W. USB2 has 5V @ 500mA or 2.5W. There are
a few M.2 that could be quite high on power, and exceed
those numbers. If an M.2 normally runs at 2.5GB/sec on
PCI Express x4, the slower operation of the enclosure,
reduces the read/write power required by the M.2. For example,
most of the power when on a USB2 port would be I/O power,
and keeping I/Os running at cable/bus rate and so on.

Soon, you'll need a primer on B and B+M and so on.
It's possible this would be best with a B.

https://www.amazon.ca/M-2-External-C.../dp/B076DCNZM3

Example of an article covering keying a bit.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-...M-key-socket-3

Paul


Does this look like what I want?

Convert an M.2 NGFF SATA SSD into a blazing fast USB 3.1 Type C external
drive.

For B key drives with SATA support only. Does NOT support NVMe PCIe
SSDs. Does not work with M key drives. See second photo.

Use the included Type-C to Type-A cable or use your own Type-C to Type-C
cable.

USB 3.1 Gen1 (5 Gb/s link speed) • SATA-III 6 Gb/s • Supports UASP to
maximize performance • Works with Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android and more

Compatible with 2230 (30mm), 2242 (42mm), 2260 (60mm), and 2280 (80mm)
M.2 drives • Chipset: Asmedia ASM1053E • Dimension: 103x39x9.5mm


Paul[_28_] July 5th 19 10:00 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
Alek wrote:
Paul wrote on 7/5/2019 4:05 PM:
Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.

Check the keying and device type, before you buy.
This might be an adapter with the newest JMicron controller.

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Ext.../dp/B07FCBNSL8

That one expects PCI Express on the M.2 connector,
and runs at approximately 1GB/sec on USB3.1 Rev2.

If you plugged that enclosure into a USB2 port, it would
run at 35MB/sec.

Check the power consumption of the M.2 device. USB3 has
5V @ 900mA or 3.5W. USB2 has 5V @ 500mA or 2.5W. There are
a few M.2 that could be quite high on power, and exceed
those numbers. If an M.2 normally runs at 2.5GB/sec on
PCI Express x4, the slower operation of the enclosure,
reduces the read/write power required by the M.2. For example,
most of the power when on a USB2 port would be I/O power,
and keeping I/Os running at cable/bus rate and so on.

Soon, you'll need a primer on B and B+M and so on.
It's possible this would be best with a B.

https://www.amazon.ca/M-2-External-C.../dp/B076DCNZM3

Example of an article covering keying a bit.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-...M-key-socket-3

Paul


Does this look like what I want?

Convert an M.2 NGFF SATA SSD into a blazing fast USB 3.1 Type C external
drive.

For B key drives with SATA support only. Does NOT support NVMe PCIe
SSDs. Does not work with M key drives. See second photo.

Use the included Type-C to Type-A cable or use your own Type-C to Type-C
cable.

USB 3.1 Gen1 (5 Gb/s link speed) • SATA-III 6 Gb/s • Supports UASP to
maximize performance • Works with Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android and more

Compatible with 2230 (30mm), 2242 (42mm), 2260 (60mm), and 2280 (80mm)
M.2 drives • Chipset: Asmedia ASM1053E • Dimension: 103x39x9.5mm


ASM1053E

USB 3.0 to SATA III Bridge Chipset with UASP Support

So right away you know it isn't for PCI Express interface devices.

Compare the keying on your device, to the enclosure keying.

Paul

~misfit~[_16_] July 6th 19 02:11 AM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
On 6/07/2019 7:07 AM, Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????)


Are you sure it's M.2 and not mSATA? If so the next step is to work out what flavor of M.2 it is so
you can get the right adapter. Paul has linked to an article that covers the various types.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3

Failing that read the numbers off the device and post them here if you're unable to work this out
yourself.

from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


I own and have used adapters for mSATA that either connect to USB3 or are 2.5" format and connect
internally to standard SATA (and SATA power). I dare say that both types would be available for the
various types of M.2 SSD also.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

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Peter Jason July 6th 19 06:07 AM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:07:03 -0400, Alek
wrote:

I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


I have one of these for backups on an SSD.....
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-2-5-I...s%2C352&sr=1-2


Alek July 6th 19 01:56 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
~misfit~ wrote on 7/5/2019 9:11 PM:
On 6/07/2019 7:07 AM, Alek wrote:
I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????)


Are you sure it's M.2 and not mSATA? If so the next step is to work out what flavor of M.2 it is so
you can get the right adapter. Paul has linked to an article that covers the various types.

https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3

Failing that read the numbers off the device and post them here if you're unable to work this out
yourself.

from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


I own and have used adapters for mSATA that either connect to USB3 or are 2.5" format and connect
internally to standard SATA (and SATA power). I dare say that both types would be available for the
various types of M.2 SSD also.



OK. It seems to be NVMe SSD.

Paul[_28_] July 6th 19 04:42 PM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
Alek wrote:

OK. It seems to be NVMe SSD.


I don't know if there are any cheaper versions of these or not.

https://www.amazon.com/Enclosure-Ext.../dp/B07FCBNSL8

This is an article from when the JMS583 chip for it came out last year.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13510...-bridge-review

There is a Startech version, but missing a decent cable.

https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-M.../dp/B01C7G8W86

Whatever product I bought, I'd make sure that the thing
can be operated with the casing removed. The sliding versions,
you may not be able to fit a Sil-pad for cooling (thermal
conductivity solution). The M.2 can overheat on sustained
write. You might need to operate it in the open, and
use an M.2 cooling kit (if it keeps seizing up).

Paul





~misfit~[_16_] July 7th 19 11:55 AM

Enclosure for SSD thingy
 
On 6/07/2019 5:07 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:07:03 -0400, Alek
wrote:

I removed the SSD circuit board (M.2????) from a computer that had died.
I'd like to use that SSD in a computer that does not have a plug-in
connector for such a device.

Is there an external enclosure for such a circuit board that will let me
connect it to another computer?

Is there any way to use that circuit board internally--some kind of
adapter that would connect to a SATA (?) port?

Thanks and happy holiday.


I have one of these for backups on an SSD.....
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-2-5-I...s%2C352&sr=1-2


I have a couple of things similar to that, very handy. I have one that's always attached* to a 5mm
'thin' single-platter 2.5" 320GB HDD that I use to store video files from my PC to play on my TV.
Copying files to it is a good constant ~100 MB/s, faster than most of my USB3 flash drives. Even my
not-cheap Samsung 64GB USB3 flash drives seem to top out at around 60 MB/s.

* [I stuck a bit of clear plastic ruler cut to size to the adapter and HDD with double-sided
sellotape to relieve any stress on the SATA connector / HDD PCB. When a HDD is made to me 5mm thick
the PCB isn't very robust.]
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification
in the DSM"
David Melville

This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software.


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