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External Backup?
I have had bad luck with portable USB storage.
Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx |
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xxxxx wrote:
I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? |
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On 7/5/2019 2:30 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
xxxxx wrote: I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? OP specified that he wants one with an external plug-in power supply. |
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 13:30:10 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
xxxxx wrote: I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? USB1 AND USB2. My PCs are old. Both PCs r x64 tho. xxxxx When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? |
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:33:04 -0400, John McGaw wrote:
On 7/5/2019 2:30 PM, VanguardLH wrote: xxxxx wrote: I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? OP specified that he wants one with an external plug-in power supply. yes I did xxxxx |
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John McGaw wrote:
On 7/5/2019 2:30 PM, VanguardLH wrote: xxxxx wrote: I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? OP specified that he wants one with an external plug-in power supply. The OP said he *thinks* an A/C powered USB enclosure *might* be more reliable than using a USB port. His experience has been the A/C powered USB drives were more reliable than the port-powered USB drives. My experience has been the port-powered USB drives work just fine for a long time -- PROVIDED you use a port that supplies enough power (USB3) or you know the HDD inside the enclosure can work on just one USB2 port instead of requiring 2 USB2 ports via Y-adapter. I've had USB2 HDDs, too, and those required the Y-adapter, and as long as I used it to get power from 2 USB2 ports then the USB HDD worked just fine. With just one USB2 port, those old USB2 HDDs might not spin up. |
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On 6/07/2019 10:34 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
John McGaw wrote: On 7/5/2019 2:30 PM, VanguardLH wrote: xxxxx wrote: I have had bad luck with portable USB storage. Such as the small 'sticks', and larger hard drives. I have had them all fail on me. I am tired of it. I think I wud do better if I used portable USB storage with its own 110v power supply (adapter). I have had a few in the past, and they never failed on me. Am I thinking right? Someone recommend a good 2TB drive? Thanks xxxxx If these are spinners, are you connecting them to USB2 or USB3 ports? When I've bought USB2 drives, some required the Y-adapter to get power from 2 USB2 ports. 1 USB2 port did not have enough power to spin up the platters. Once spinning the power from 1 USB2 port was sufficient, but the surge current needed to get them spinning required 2 USB2 ports. If you didn't want to use a Y-adapter, the USB drive required a power adapter to supply enough power. Back when I built my own, I made sure to get /laptop/ 2.5" spinners which require less power, so I only need a simple USB cable, not some Y-adapter, and could forego the power adapter. Nowadays I don't think there is much difference in current and surge load for those drives, plus the manfactures don't publish those specs anymore. For USB2 or USB3 drives, the USB3 port provides enough power. If you use a USB2 drive on a USB2 port, you could run into the above power limitation that just 1 USB2 port can supply. A USB2 drive connected to a USB3 port has enough power from that port. For USB3 drive, you should connect it only to a USB3 port, not to a USB2 port. No mention if your external drives are USB2 or USB3, and to what type of USB ports you are connecting them. "Sticking" sounds like a power supply problem (not enough power) versus the "click of death". Are these portable USB devices that you bought as pre-builts, or did you buy the enclosure and drive to make your own? If they're prebuilts, which brand and model? Is USB2, did they originally come with a Y-adapter USB cable? OP specified that he wants one with an external plug-in power supply. The OP said he *thinks* an A/C powered USB enclosure *might* be more reliable than using a USB port. His experience has been the A/C powered USB drives were more reliable than the port-powered USB drives. My experience has been the port-powered USB drives work just fine for a long time -- PROVIDED you use a port that supplies enough power (USB3) or you know the HDD inside the enclosure can work on just one USB2 port instead of requiring 2 USB2 ports via Y-adapter. I've had USB2 HDDs, too, and those required the Y-adapter, and as long as I used it to get power from 2 USB2 ports then the USB HDD worked just fine. With just one USB2 port, those old USB2 HDDs might not spin up. A problem with those USB2 'Y' adapter things is sometimes you need to be sure to plug in the USB A plug with the data pins *after* the auxiliary power supply USB A plug. (Or plug them both in at the same time.) I had a drive corrupt itself because of plugging them in in the wrong order once (a few years ago now though). -- Shaun. "Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy little classification in the DSM" David Melville This is not an email and hasn't been checked for viruses by any half-arsed self-promoting software. |
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