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vinny[_2_] May 15th 08 10:23 PM

9600 gt 512 mb power requirement
 
I have an Antec case that came with a 350 watts power supply I had a 6800
xt with 512 of ram (with the extra pipelines and shaders turned on) on a
previous agp motherboard which ran fine. I read that the 9600gt should use
the same amount of power, but most of the requirements I saw said it
needed a 400 watts minimum.

Please note that I had to buy a power adapter because my power supply had a
20 pin motherboard power connector while my mobo has a 24 pin socket.
My system is

asus M2A-VM micro atx motherbard
amd 64 x2 4800 cpu (brisbane 65 watts)
1 ide hardrive
1 sata hardrive
1 ide dvd burner
2-1 gig sticks of ram
win xp pro with sp2

will I be able to run a basic 9600 gt card?

thanks to all who reply...

Vinny



deimos[_2_] May 16th 08 12:07 AM

9600 gt 512 mb power requirement
 
vinny wrote:
I have an Antec case that came with a 350 watts power supply I had a 6800
xt with 512 of ram (with the extra pipelines and shaders turned on) on a
previous agp motherboard which ran fine. I read that the 9600gt should use
the same amount of power, but most of the requirements I saw said it
needed a 400 watts minimum.

Please note that I had to buy a power adapter because my power supply had a
20 pin motherboard power connector while my mobo has a 24 pin socket.
My system is

asus M2A-VM micro atx motherbard
amd 64 x2 4800 cpu (brisbane 65 watts)
1 ide hardrive
1 sata hardrive
1 ide dvd burner
2-1 gig sticks of ram
win xp pro with sp2

will I be able to run a basic 9600 gt card?

thanks to all who reply...

Vinny



So I take it you're using the integrated X1250 right now correct? For
any current PCI-E motherboard you should have a fully ATX 12V compliant
24-pin power supply that's PCI-E compatible. This also will have all
the necessary 6-pin power leads for graphics cards and SATA connectors
so you don't need all those Molex-to-xxx plugs.

In reviews the 9600GT uses slightly less power than an 8800GT and comes
in around 72-80watts under load. This is enough stress that you should
have a nice big 12v rail that can supply roughly 24 amps total. Since
pretty much everything today draws off the 12v, it has become far more
important to a modern PSU. You'll thank yourself in the long run since
clean power is very important to system stability (just ask your
capacitors sometime :) ). Also a good size 500-600w efficient PSU will
last you a long time. Even an SLI 8800GTX system only needs a 620W PSU.

You don't have to spend too much, but don't buy the generic 30-50 USD
nonames, they're always over-rated (current and amperage wise) and fail
easily. Here's some good examples:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153052
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189005

I'm using an XClio 500W with an 8800GT in my Opteron system, and while
I'm not sure it's the best PSU or even the most efficient, it does keep
steady voltage and keeps the GT from throttling down in-game.

Paul May 16th 08 12:09 AM

9600 gt 512 mb power requirement
 
vinny wrote:
I have an Antec case that came with a 350 watts power supply I had a 6800
xt with 512 of ram (with the extra pipelines and shaders turned on) on a
previous agp motherboard which ran fine. I read that the 9600gt should use
the same amount of power, but most of the requirements I saw said it
needed a 400 watts minimum.

Please note that I had to buy a power adapter because my power supply had a
20 pin motherboard power connector while my mobo has a 24 pin socket.
My system is

asus M2A-VM micro atx motherbard
amd 64 x2 4800 cpu (brisbane 65 watts)
1 ide hardrive
1 sata hardrive
1 ide dvd burner
2-1 gig sticks of ram
win xp pro with sp2

will I be able to run a basic 9600 gt card?

thanks to all who reply...

Vinny


Card uses about 59.7W in 3D gaming. The video card power comes from 12V1
rail. Post what it says on the label of your power supply.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...t-512gs_7.html

You didn't have to buy a power adapter. The 20 pin power plug could have
been plugged into the 24 pin directly. Current carrying capacity of the
main power connector pins, is only an issue for SLI systems (two video
card slots holding two video cards). For computers with one video card,
and no other fancy PCI Express cards plugged in, the 20 pin is enough.
Pin 1 of the 20 pin goes to Pin 1 of the 24 pin, and the shaped pins on
the ATX connector will help guide you to a correct insertion.

Your total 12V1 is 5amps+0.6+0.6+1.5+0.5 = 8.2 amps with new video card installed.
Your total 12V2 is 65W/12V * (1/0.90)=6.02 amps

Those numbers would apply to a 24 pin power supply. Since you have a
20 pin supply (pre ATX 2.0 version), all the current comes from the
main 12V rail, and the ampere total is 8.2 + 6.02 = 14.22 amps.
Examine the rating on the label of the supply, and see if at least
12V @ 15A or a bit more is available. Total power for the system
might be in the 260W region, so the 350W meets it. But not with
a lot of margin.

I like to see a little margin on the 12V. If the load was 14.22 amps,
I might want to see a 12V @ 17A supply (when compared to your current
Antec single rail supply). If you were buying a new ATX 2.0
standard supply with 24 pin connector, as a replacement, then
the 12V1 is probably the most demanding requirement.

This supply for example, doesn't offer any more total power as such,
but does have more amperes on the 12V1/12V2. If you take the combined
12V rail limitation of 324W, divide by 12, the supply has a total of
27 amps. Your load of 14.22 amps, and the individual rail limits,
mean the 12V would not be a problem with a supply like this. And
yet, the total system power of 350W, is still barely meeting the
estimated 260W total. I might try to go higher than a 350W if
spending money on a replacement.

http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...151-038-07.jpg

So check the 12V ampere rating on the label of the existing supply,
and see how much more than 14.22 amps you've got to work with.
If it is only a 15A rated supply, then I might think about
finding another supply.

Paul

DRS May 16th 08 03:42 AM

9600 gt 512 mb power requirement
 
"deimos" deimos@localhost wrote in message


[...]

compliant 24-pin power supply that's PCI-E compatible. This also
will have all the necessary 6-pin power leads for graphics cards and
SATA connectors so you don't need all those Molex-to-xxx plugs.


Does the 9600GT use 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe connectors?



Augustus[_3_] May 16th 08 04:17 AM

9600 gt 512 mb power requirement
 
Does the 9600GT use 6-pin or 8-pin PCIe connectors?
The Asus 9600GT I bought for my son's recent build uses the standard 6 pin
PCIe connector.




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